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@tulir tulir commented Oct 3, 2024

Signed-off-by: Tulir Asokan <tulir@maunium.net>
@tulir tulir added proposal A matrix spec change proposal client-server Client-Server API kind:maintenance MSC which clarifies/updates existing spec needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. labels Oct 3, 2024
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Signed-off-by: Tulir Asokan <tulir@maunium.net>
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For the "needs-implementation" label on this MSC, one could consider implementation as "removing support for legacy mentions". However, I doubt a client will actually remove backwards-compatibility support for a feature until it's official removed from the spec. So it seems we're at a stalemate.

In the interest of unblocking it, I propose moving forwards with this MSC. The amount of client implementation shown in #4210 (comment) demonstrates to me that the ecosystem is ready to move forwards.

@mscbot fcp merge

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mscbot commented Mar 24, 2025

Team member @mscbot has proposed to merge this. The next step is review by the rest of the tagged people:

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  • may break notifications for too many users
  • checklist not completed

Once at least 75% of reviewers approve (and there are no outstanding concerns), this will enter its final comment period. If you spot a major issue that hasn't been raised at any point in this process, please speak up!

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@anoadragon453 anoadragon453 removed the needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. label Mar 24, 2025
@mscbot mscbot added proposed-final-comment-period Currently awaiting signoff of a majority of team members in order to enter the final comment period. disposition-merge needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. labels Mar 24, 2025
@anoadragon453 anoadragon453 removed the needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. label Mar 24, 2025
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turt2live commented Mar 25, 2025

MSCs proposed for Final Comment Period (FCP) should meet the requirements outlined in the checklist prior to being accepted into the spec. This checklist is a bit long, but aims to reduce the number of follow-on MSCs after a feature lands.

SCT members: please check off things you check for, and raise a concern against FCP if the checklist is incomplete. If an item doesn't apply, prefer to check it rather than remove it. Unchecking items is encouraged where applicable.

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@mscbot concern checklist not completed

@mscbot mscbot added the unresolved-concerns This proposal has at least one outstanding concern label Mar 25, 2025
@github-project-automation github-project-automation bot moved this to Needs idea feedback / initial review in Spec Core Team Workflow Mar 25, 2025
@turt2live turt2live moved this from Needs idea feedback / initial review to Ready for FCP ticks in Spec Core Team Workflow Mar 25, 2025
@turt2live turt2live removed the implementation-needs-checking The MSC has an implementation, but the SCT has not yet checked it. label Mar 25, 2025
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generally this lgtm

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@mscbot concern may break notifications for too many users

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@mscbot resolve may break notifications for too many users

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richvdh commented Jul 8, 2025

@mscbot resolve checklist not completed

@mscbot mscbot removed the unresolved-concerns This proposal has at least one outstanding concern label Jul 8, 2025
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mscbot commented Jul 8, 2025

🔔 This is now entering its final comment period, as per the review above. 🔔

@mscbot mscbot added final-comment-period This MSC has entered a final comment period in interest to approval, postpone, or delete in 5 days. and removed proposed-final-comment-period Currently awaiting signoff of a majority of team members in order to enter the final comment period. labels Jul 8, 2025
@turt2live turt2live moved this from Ready for FCP ticks to In FCP in Spec Core Team Workflow Jul 8, 2025
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mscbot commented Jul 13, 2025

The final comment period, with a disposition to merge, as per the review above, is now complete.

@mscbot mscbot added finished-final-comment-period and removed disposition-merge final-comment-period This MSC has entered a final comment period in interest to approval, postpone, or delete in 5 days. labels Jul 13, 2025
@turt2live turt2live merged commit 07ee4ff into main Jul 14, 2025
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@turt2live turt2live added spec-pr-missing Proposal has been implemented and is being used in the wild but hasn't yet been added to the spec and removed finished-final-comment-period labels Jul 14, 2025
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