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# Proposal for deleting content for expired and redacted messages | ||
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## Overview | ||
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[MSC1763](https://https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/1763) proposes | ||
the `m.room.retention` state event for defining how aggressively servers | ||
should purge old messages for a given room. | ||
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It originally also specified how media for purged events should be purged from | ||
disk, however this was split out into a new MSC [by | ||
request](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/1763#discussion_r320289119) | ||
during review. | ||
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## Proposal | ||
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We handle encrypted & unencrypted rooms differently. Both require an API to | ||
delete content from the local media repo (bug | ||
[#790](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/790)), for which we | ||
propose: | ||
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``` | ||
DELETE /_matrix/media/r0/download/{serverName}/{mediaId} | ||
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``` | ||
with a JSON dict as a request body. | ||
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The API would returns: | ||
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* `200 OK {}` on success | ||
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* `403` with error `M_FORBIDDEN` if invalid access_token or not authorised to delete. | ||
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* `404` with error `M_NOT_FOUND` if the content described in the URL does not exist on the local server. | ||
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The user must be authenticated via access_token or Authorization header as the | ||
original uploader, or however the server sees fit in order to delete the content. | ||
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Servers may wish to quarantine the deleted content for some timeframe before | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. we should probably spec the quarantine API (in a different MSC, in the future, eventually) |
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actually purging it from storage, in order to mitigate abuse. | ||
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XXX: We might want to provide an undelete API too to let users rescue | ||
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their content that they accidentally deleted, as you would get on a | ||
typical desktop OS file manager. Perhaps `DELETE` with `{ undo: true }`? | ||
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XXX: We might also want to let admins quarantine rather than delete attachments | ||
without a timelimit by passing `{ quarantine: true }` or similar. | ||
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Server admins may choose to mark some content as undeletable in their | ||
implementation (e.g. for sticker packs and other content which should never be | ||
deleted or quarantined.) | ||
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### Encrypted rooms | ||
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There is no way for server to know what events refer to which MXC URL, so we | ||
leave it up to the client to DELETE any MXC URLs referred to by an event after | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I'm a bit confused by this: assuming that there is more than one client in a given room, which has responsibility for making the DELETE request? I guess it has to be a client belonging to the original uploader, but what if they go away/stop watching the room/etc? There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. It would have to be the original uploader, but indeed, that doesn't help if someone else redacts their event for them and they don't come back and finish it off by deleting the media. |
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it expires or redacts its local copy of an event. | ||
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We rely on the fact that MXC URLs should not be reused between encrypted | ||
events, as we expect each event to have different message keys to avoid | ||
correlation. As a result, it should be safe to assume each attachment has | ||
only one referring event, and so when a client deems that the event should | ||
be deleted, it is safe to also delete the attachment without breaking any | ||
other events. | ||
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It seems reasonable to consider the special case of forwarding encrypted | ||
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attachments between rooms as an a 'copy by reference' - if the original | ||
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event gets deleted, the others should too. If this isn't desired, then | ||
the attachment should be reencrypted. | ||
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### Unencrypted rooms | ||
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It's common for MXC URLs to be shared between unencrypted events - e.g. reusing | ||
sticker media, or when forwarding messages between rooms, etc. In this instance, | ||
the homeserver (not media server) should count the references to a given MXC URL | ||
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by events which refer to it. | ||
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If all events which refer to it have been purged or redacted, the HS should delete | ||
the attachment - either by internally deleting the media, or if using an | ||
external media repository, by calling the DELETE api upon it. | ||
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If a new event is received over federation which refers to a deleted | ||
attachment, then the server should operate as if it has never heard of that | ||
attachment; pulling it in over federation from whatever the source server is. | ||
This will break if a remote server sends an event referring to a local | ||
MXC URL which may have been deleted, so don't do that - clients on servers | ||
should send MXC URLs which refer to their local server, not remote ones. | ||
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This means that if the local server chooses to expire the source event sooner | ||
than a remote server does, the remote server might end up not being able to | ||
sync the media from the local server and so display a broken attachment. | ||
This feels fairly reasonable; if you don't want people to end up with 404s | ||
on attachments, you shouldn't go deleting things. | ||
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In the scenario of (say) a redacted membership event, it's possible that the | ||
refcount of an unwanted avatar might be greater than zero (due to the avatar | ||
being referenced in multiple rooms), but the room admin may want to still | ||
purge the content from their server. This can be achieved by DELETEing the | ||
content independently from redacting the membership events. | ||
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## Tradeoffs | ||
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Assuming that encrypted events don't reuse attachments is controversial but | ||
hopefully acceptable. It does mean that stickers in encrypted rooms will end | ||
up getting re-encrypted/decrypted every time, but is hopefully be acceptable | ||
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given the resulting improvement in privacy. | ||
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An alternative approach to solving the problem of attachment reuse could be to | ||
expect clients to somehow 'touch' uploaded local attachments whenever they | ||
send an event which refers to them - effectively renewing their retention | ||
lifetime. However, in E2EE rooms this ends up leaking which events refer to | ||
which attachments (or at least claim to), and also gives a vector for abuse | ||
where malicious client could bypass the retention schedule by repeatedly | ||
retouching a file to keep it alive. | ||
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## Security considerations | ||
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Media repo implementations might want to use `srm` or a similar secure | ||
deletion tool to scrub deleted data off disk. | ||
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If the same attachment is sent multiple times across encrypted events (even if | ||
encrypted separately per event), it's worth noting that the size of the | ||
encrypted attachment and associated traffic patterns will be an easy way to | ||
identify attachment reuse (e.g. who's forwarding a sensitive file to each | ||
other). |
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