How did you discover NiceGUI?

[evnchn]

Cause

I find it strange that there's not a lot of YouTube videos introducing NiceGUI, unlike other web frameworks, even Python-based ones.

Not only that, I can't recall (for the life of me) how I stumbled into NiceGUI either. I only know the first version I used was 1.2.4. I tried to search my Google Activity history, but the first result was "nicegui.io form input" on 3 Apr 2023, 16:15, so certainly I must have known about NiceGUI before then, but how?

Hypothesis

My hypothesis is that, people magically stumble into NiceGUI 🪄. And I'd like to know if it's right or wrong.

Survey

So, I'd like to do a poll and see how did you discover NiceGUI.

Impact

The result of this poll can potentially make NiceGUI more reachable, if we work to enhance it.

If none of the choices match, then comment below. Thanks!

[falkoschindler]

I find it strange that there's not a lot of YouTube videos introducing NiceGUI

Me too. Once in a while there are videos (partly AI-generated) with almost no views. One major channel, Arjan Codes, mentioned us once (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiLgG4CabPo), but didn't really see the full potential. In other videos Arjan still promotes Streamlit or other less powerful GUI frameworks. And Python Bytes covered it two years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr4swJVdPys). There's still potential for promoting it to a greater audience.

[thetableman]

ArjanCodes just gave another shout out to NiceGUI https://youtu.be/F09EK4ztG34?t=787&si=JBWcPjiwyXOoiKgS

[thevinchi]

I found nicegui about a year ago while evaluating streamlit and looking for better alternatives due to the limitations with streamlit. I believe it was a comment on one of their GitHub issues made by someone who was already a fan of nicegui.

[evnchn]

Well I heard some Streamlit fans having some friction converting to NiceGUI since it's different (#21, as well as personal experience)

I imagine with #4688 can we make an auto-converter (with decent accuracy?) to convert existing Streamlit scripts to NiceGUI.

Since I'd imagine what NiceGUI can do is a superset of Streamlit (I think so?), this should be doable.

@falkoschindler then some questions:

• Do you think it's doable? Is NiceGUI superset of Streamlit in terms of functionality?
• Is this service for free or at a fee?
• Who's paying for the AI credits?

[falkoschindler]

Is NiceGUI superset of Streamlit in terms of functionality?

I think there are still some Streamlit elements without a NiceGUI counterpart. But I don't know Streamlit by heart.

Do you think it's doable? Is this service for free or at a fee? Who's paying for the AI credits?

It's hard to answer questions about a hypothetical service. In simple cases you can simply ask an AI of your choice, in other cases it might not work at all.

[evnchn]

If it isn't obvious, I want to make some NiceGUI-related LLM service, which can include an generic coding agent, or perhaps a Streamlit converter.

Therefore I'm asking about the paid/free nature and also the source.

I guess I can use my university's but I'd quickly run out of money... 💸

[feoh]

I learned about NiceGUI from the Pybites Circle Community "Summer of Pybites Code" competition this year :)

[MicaelJarniac]

As far as I remember, I first heard of NiceGUI on a Steam game called Joy of Programming.

[falkoschindler]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2216770/JOY_OF_PROGRAMMING__Software_Engineering_Simulator/ 👍🏻

[evnchn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nicegui/comments/11vjiqy/i_recently_integrated_nicegui_into_the/

[evnchn]

Mentioned in The Real Python Podcast

Episode 263: Exploring Mixin Classes in Python

00:44:05 – nicegui: Create Web-Based UI With Python

https://realpython.com/podcasts/rpp/263/#t=2645

Funny thing is we do use Mixin Classes: https://github.com/zauberzeug/nicegui/tree/main/nicegui/elements/mixins

[Mogit21]

I recently wrote an article introducing NiceGUI to new users. I first published it on my personal blog and Medium, and I'm excited to share that it was also featured today in PyCoders Weekly.
Here are the links:
My personal Blog:
Medium:
PyCoders Weekly:
I wrote this piece to help more developers discover how easy and fun it is to build UIs with NiceGUI. Hopefully, it can serve as a friendly resource for people who are just getting started.

[Yuerchu]

My journey with NiceGUI began out of a need for a contemporary UI framework, as I found options like tkinter and wxPython to be outdated for my purposes. One day, a search for "Python UI framework" led me to an amazing discovery: a Python-based framework that elegantly implements Material Design. The discovery of NiceGUI proved to be a turning point in my development work.

Subsequently, to assist Chinese speakers who prefer to learn in their native language, I developed the Simplified Chinese documentation for the framework. This project is now available as NiceGUI 中文网.

[evnchn]

@falkoschindler he's cooking HARD while I'm gone.

The only shortcoming I'm seeing right now is the lack of interactive demo. I'm considering to let that site iframe the main one.

[evnchn]

#4025

It all started with this.

[falkoschindler]

This is getting interesting... Let's continue the discussion in a separate thread: #5198. 🙂

[coolynx]

I wanted to create a desktop GUI app using Python. Those existing Python or Electron GUI were ugly or bloated. I was waiting, when someone creates a lightweight version of Electron. But then one day I found https://nicegui.io/documentation#native_mode that was based on https://github.com/r0x0r/pywebview.

I thought that it is the same project for Python as Laravel was for PHP. The only missing part was a Jeffrey who explains how easy it is to create a tiny desktop app. You do not have to learn Swift or other languages. That is the real bomb! 🚀

If I wanted to create a tiny web project that works in a browser I would go for PHP. But image how cool it is to make a fully functional desktop app. 🥰

That was the only reason why I use it. And you are no more branding it like that. As a result people can not find it. 🙄

[laoshaw]

i use it for exactly the same reason

[CaesarDuarte]

I discovered NiceGUI when I was looking for something to deal with the limitation and mess of Streamlit for sessions (I'm creating a project that will involve multiple pages and internal actions), NiceGUI proved to be much better (and well, until 2.23.3 customizable in terms of css, I'll see how 3.0+ turned out soon) and since then I started using it, recreating what I had done in Streamlit and migrating the framework as a whole.

[odoublewen]

Two months ago I googled "plotly dash vs" and let the Google prompt auto complete, which it did with "streamlit nicegui tableau". The first and third, I knew I didn't want, but NiceGUI was new to me. I spent some time reading about it, and then dove in. I love it, thank you!

[evnchn]

@falkoschindler on this, I'm moderately surprised that we got on the Google keyword radar, given our documentation website's SEO is not that hot.

So, is SEO on our wishlist?