when no internet while switching on TV and later connect to internet - youtube app does not open

[vkkindia]

YTAF Version

0.4.1

webOS Version

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Firmware Version

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OTAID

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SoC

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Model

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Description

I am using homebrew youtube and works good. I find a issue in that when the tv switch ON, and not connected to internet due to router not switched on. And when i switch on router and tv connects, when i open youtube app. it wont open or grey screen will be there. I have to kill it. the method i use is open kodi play some video addon and exit kodi. Then if i again open youtube it will open and ask to select my login or kids or guest. Thereafter it will continue to work.

I am able to repeat this error if i switch on TV without router hotspot. This issue persist in earlier versions too.

Priority

Annoying, but I can live with it.

[Dibrom2]

To be fair, this is probably not really an issue with YTAF at all and I doubt it can be coded around as a fix. The problem is far more likely caused by the priority the software operating the SmartTV's OS chooses when connecting to a network which you will have zero chance of getting fixed by the TV manufacturer. Most TV OS will assume there is an always-on network available and will try to connect to it as a priority as soon as a power-on request is received. If it can't find the last network it successfully connected to, then it will start looking for others it can see and testing whether any of the encryption passwords it knows and has stored works. This all takes time. If the TV is cable connected (as it should be since a TV is not by definition a portable device), then there is no encryption necessary, and this all happens very quickly - almost instantly. If the TV connects by wi-fi, then there is encryption required and this takes much longer. If you, for whatever reason, regularly switch off the router providing that wi-fi signal, then this doesn't happen at all or it takes a very long time. If the TV fails to find a working network it can use in a time period the coder author deemed reasonable to wait for a usable signal, then the TV will generally give up, until a pre-determined amount of time has passed, before it tries looking again.

By switching off your router (or letting your router go into a power saving mode), you are forcing your TV to give up connecting to a network it can't find and hence anything looking to use that network, like youtube, will probably fail to load or at least become very unpredictable in its response.

The solution is to fix the non-permanent network connectivity you have. If the router has a power saving mode switched on by default, then disable it. If you are for some strange reason deliberately switching off your router when not actively using it, then stop doing that. If connecting the TV via some other cable method such as Cat-5e or EoP adapter for a non-invasive/non-destructive method rather than wifi is available, then do that. Any form of cable connection is far more reliable, secure and faster than wifi.

[vkkindia]

just a suggestion, if user opens the app, kill and load again if it is running in background. will this method solve?? bacically i am doing like that only, open kodi, play addons (jio tv), exit kodi. Then if i open YT it is getting loaded and YT works.

[febman123]

@vkkindia: Yes, if it fails to start, kill the running background process (WebAppMgr) and try starting it again. Works every time for me.

Just to add some info from my experience on my two LG TVs (10 & 4 years old) with the same version of YTAF installed on both.

On my webOS 3.4 TV, if YTAF cannot find the network, a page is displayed informing you of this with three options: retry, go to network settings or exit app.

The webOS 6.5 (C1) TV is the one on which YTAF hangs if the network was not connected at the time of the TV starting up, despite the network being clearly connected well before YTAF is started.

On a few occasions a similar "no network connection" page has been displayed as per webOS 3.4, but this is the rare exception and usually if the TV has been running for a while before starting YTAF. No idea why this is hit-or-miss on webOS 6.5.

All stock apps display the no network connection page if there is no connectivity.

Unfortunately YTAF is the only non-stock app I have that must have internet connectivity in order to work, so I am unable to confirm if this is the same for other jail apps that must connect to the internet to work.

I am wondering, does YTAF try to make a background connection as soon as webOS start-up has finished in order to create a cache for faster loading??

Just a thought.