Are these permissions correct?

[stephenmeehanuk]

Hi

I'm having random issues with caches not clearing, when deploying a website (via Ploi)

Also had this issue (perhaps it's related?) when making edits to existing entries 11772.

When deploying a site in Ploi, I sometimes see this message

ERROR  Failed to clear cache. Make sure you have the appropriate permissions.

I don't know if this is even related, but I noticed...

On production in /storage/framework/cache/ all the facade files have the same -rw-r--r-- permissions. -rw-r--r-- (644 ) means they're only writable by the owner

What's the expected permissions for facade files?

-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     330 May  8 11:50 facade-00424c9e42cb9ffda29fd67353e3e8f6f71d6d57.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 May  8 11:57 facade-00c06c6dbf6e10174f31a94398bb9ebfabf58b79.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 May  8 13:21 facade-0bd80ee8a0704929596ca75c1793c514d6d21c08.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     360 May  8 11:51 facade-56d18099b06eaa1e6d4d58660627ab66e02698d0.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 May  8 11:51 facade-632b1b1e5d5b3294edc2d2677eceaf1ce2cc06bf.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 May  8 11:50 facade-6817f34045c8b576ed6987db5d1c53f005129bb6.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     372 May  8 12:38 facade-69fb2e39376db5034defb50493651cfa2dc6a6d1.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     375 May  8 12:38 facade-6c4934c2e80a9c793278de0ad36c241f6066735e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 May  8 13:21 facade-86ac4e4ef1db32bbdf2ba02e930dbd81a193f93e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     348 May  8 11:51 facade-87d7328864b8a26d52488eb152f168c348630948.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     348 May  8 13:21 facade-8cb18eb3190494591b205a3099cc5642c5b4907c.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     318 May  8 13:21 facade-8f4eb59ea777457dbec43c1ed1324c3f744b1e6c.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     360 May  8 11:51 facade-9696279d8b1632364708e5c6385f12d5cc5f9608.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     372 May  8 11:51 facade-ac9051c196a2ba5f5c5302c5aeb98723bd50cd61.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     372 May  8 11:50 facade-b61bc7e97fa2370eb2792870101370220256cc1e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 May  8 11:51 facade-e07fb476cfa4266d63d8c016d297c1c8b1330776.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     315 May  8 12:38 facade-e24238adf97e438cf803489298e08fe54560146b.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     354 May  8 12:38 facade-f85985d7de5329aa35d275e51c0e39cf5c3be941.php

On the staging site the facade files have a mix of permissions

-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     330 Apr  9 08:21 facade-00424c9e42cb9ffda29fd67353e3e8f6f71d6d57.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     360 Apr  9 08:21 facade-56d18099b06eaa1e6d4d58660627ab66e02698d0.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 Apr  9 08:22 facade-632b1b1e5d5b3294edc2d2677eceaf1ce2cc06bf.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     342 Apr  9 08:21 facade-6817f34045c8b576ed6987db5d1c53f005129bb6.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     372 Apr  9 08:22 facade-69fb2e39376db5034defb50493651cfa2dc6a6d1.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     348 Apr  9 08:22 facade-87d7328864b8a26d52488eb152f168c348630948.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     360 Apr  9 08:22 facade-9696279d8b1632364708e5c6385f12d5cc5f9608.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     372 Apr  9 08:21 facade-ac9051c196a2ba5f5c5302c5aeb98723bd50cd61.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     372 Apr  9 08:21 facade-b61bc7e97fa2370eb2792870101370220256cc1e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 Apr  9 08:22 facade-e07fb476cfa4266d63d8c016d297c1c8b1330776.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     315 Apr  9 08:22 facade-e24238adf97e438cf803489298e08fe54560146b.php

-rw-rw-r-- (664). On staging the owner AND group members have write permission to those files.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

Environment
Application Name: Website
Laravel Version: 11.44.2
PHP Version: 8.3.13
Composer Version: 2.8.8
Environment: production
Debug Mode: OFF
URL: website.com
Maintenance Mode: OFF
Timezone: America/New_York
Locale: en

Cache
Config: NOT CACHED
Events: NOT CACHED
Routes: NOT CACHED
Views: CACHED

Drivers
Broadcasting: pusher
Cache: file
Database: sqlite
Logs: stack / single
Mail: smtp
Queue: redis
Session: redis

Livewire
Livewire: v3.6.2

Statamic
Addons: 6
Sites: 1
Stache Watcher: Disabled
Static Caching: half
Version: 5.52.0 PRO

Statamic Addons
jonassiewertsen/statamic-jobs: 1.5.0
jonassiewertsen/statamic-live-search: 2.2.0
marcorieser/statamic-livewire: 3.9.0
statamic/collaboration: 1.0.0
statamic/importer: 1.8.1
visuellverstehen/statamic-anchor-navigation: 1.0.0

[stephenmeehanuk]

I've just checked the facade files again after running some cache clearing and there's a mix of permissions now...

-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     330 May  8 13:42 facade-00424c9e42cb9ffda29fd67353e3e8f6f71d6d57.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 May  8 14:16 facade-00c06c6dbf6e10174f31a94398bb9ebfabf58b79.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 May  8 13:55 facade-0bd80ee8a0704929596ca75c1793c514d6d21c08.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     360 May  8 14:46 facade-254469f3b82eac37c0cad20855a7a89c7a1c65f2.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     360 May  8 13:42 facade-56d18099b06eaa1e6d4d58660627ab66e02698d0.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 May  8 13:42 facade-632b1b1e5d5b3294edc2d2677eceaf1ce2cc06bf.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     342 May  8 13:42 facade-6817f34045c8b576ed6987db5d1c53f005129bb6.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     372 May  8 13:43 facade-69fb2e39376db5034defb50493651cfa2dc6a6d1.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     375 May  8 13:55 facade-6c4934c2e80a9c793278de0ad36c241f6066735e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 May  8 13:55 facade-86ac4e4ef1db32bbdf2ba02e930dbd81a193f93e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     348 May  8 13:42 facade-87d7328864b8a26d52488eb152f168c348630948.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     348 May  8 13:55 facade-8cb18eb3190494591b205a3099cc5642c5b4907c.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     318 May  8 13:55 facade-8f4eb59ea777457dbec43c1ed1324c3f744b1e6c.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     360 May  8 13:42 facade-9696279d8b1632364708e5c6385f12d5cc5f9608.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     372 May  8 13:42 facade-ac9051c196a2ba5f5c5302c5aeb98723bd50cd61.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     372 May  8 13:42 facade-b61bc7e97fa2370eb2792870101370220256cc1e.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     363 May  8 13:42 facade-e07fb476cfa4266d63d8c016d297c1c8b1330776.php
-rw-rw-r--   1 ploi ploi     315 May  8 13:43 facade-e24238adf97e438cf803489298e08fe54560146b.php
-rw-r--r--   1 ploi ploi     354 May  8 13:55 facade-f85985d7de5329aa35d275e51c0e39cf5c3be941.php

Is this likely to be the cause of any cache clearing issues?