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2018-09-11 20:07:17 ~japaric ok, let's start this meeting
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2018-09-11 20:07:21 Astro during the past few days rustc nightly hangs indefinitely compiling cortex-m-rt; does anyone experience something similar?
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2018-09-11 20:07:37 @adamgreig Astro: https://github.com/rust-embedded/cortex-m-rt/issues/117
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2018-09-11 20:07:41 Astro thx
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2018-09-11 20:07:48 @adamgreig (it's rustc and fixed in upcoming nightly)
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2018-09-11 20:08:08 ~japaric first thing is to remind you that there are two open RFCs waiting for review
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2018-09-11 20:08:13 ~japaric they are linked in the paper
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2018-09-11 20:08:23 ~japaric the voting majority one and the Cortex-A team one
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2018-09-11 20:08:32 * japaric hasn't had a chance at look at either
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2018-09-11 20:08:58 ~japaric next we move onto the milestone issues that we didn't cover last week
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2018-09-11 20:09:02 hannobraun Cortex-A isn't awaiting review, if I understand correctly. It's more like a draft.
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2018-09-11 20:09:07 ~japaric jamesmunns: around?
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2018-09-11 20:09:27 hannobraun Well, not awaiting approval, I mean
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2018-09-11 20:10:08 ~japaric hannobraun: ack
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2018-09-11 20:10:26 ~japaric let's skip issue 1 since jamesmunns is not around
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2018-09-11 20:10:38 ~japaric issue 2 I'll tackle this week
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2018-09-11 20:11:09 ~japaric issue 3 and 4 shouldn't be too much work if anyone wants to fix the reported issues
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2018-09-11 20:11:26 ~japaric otherwise I'll try to get to them this week
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2018-09-11 20:12:10 ~japaric for issue 5 we have a PR that turns cortex-m-quickstart into a cargo-generate template
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2018-09-11 20:12:20 @therealprof (y)
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2018-09-11 20:12:27 ~japaric I'm not sure what's the status for the other arches
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2018-09-11 20:12:36 ~japaric I'll ping the other teams on the issue
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2018-09-11 20:13:14 ~japaric issues 6 and 7 are about updating the DNS
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2018-09-11 20:13:16 awygle i feel confident we don't have any for msp430 at the moment
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2018-09-11 20:13:34 ~japaric which should hopefully be fixed this week
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2018-09-11 20:14:03 ~japaric the DNS upgrade should happen this week and we'll probably open a formal PR to create an ops team
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2018-09-11 20:14:17 ~japaric more details in https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/issues/156
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2018-09-11 20:14:46 ~japaric the last item in the backlog is "communicating absences"
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2018-09-11 20:14:58 ~japaric this is an idea I got from andre-ritcher
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2018-09-11 20:15:16 ~japaric the proposal is to share information about the absences of team members in e.g. a private google calendar
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2018-09-11 20:15:48 ~japaric this information could be used to reduce the voting majority threshold since not all members are around
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2018-09-11 20:16:21 @adamgreig hmm
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2018-09-11 20:16:24 ~japaric and in general it's good to enough if people are not going to be around for extended periods of time, I guess
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2018-09-11 20:16:39 @adamgreig i was imagining the voting majority threshold being to adapt to not all members wanting to vote on an issue rather than not being present to do so
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2018-09-11 20:16:40 ~japaric thoughts on having something of this sort?
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2018-09-11 20:16:45 awygle i see this as interesting but not enormously useful
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2018-09-11 20:16:54 @adamgreig if anything i'd want to postpone major votes if someone's been away a bunch and hasn't had time to look at something
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2018-09-11 20:17:05 awygle probably most useful for japaric and other "core team" members (idk if we have a formal notion of that or not)
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2018-09-11 20:17:11 hannobraun adamgreig: +1
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2018-09-11 20:17:43 @therealprof Not a big fan of a private absence calendar.
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2018-09-11 20:18:09 @korken89 I get a feeling that this can easily be forgotten
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2018-09-11 20:18:41 @adamgreig depending on how we feel about information being semi-public we could just have apologies in issue threads for upcoming meetings
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2018-09-11 20:18:54 @adamgreig but that's both public and still of somewhat questionably utility
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2018-09-11 20:20:38 ~japaric ok, it seems that the idea doesn't have much approval. We can revisit it later, perhaps when andre-richter is around
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2018-09-11 20:21:00 @korken89 :+1
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2018-09-11 20:21:18 ~japaric ok, let's resume triaging milestone issues
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2018-09-11 20:21:49 ~japaric let's start with issue 9
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2018-09-11 20:22:00 ~japaric there was some progress last week: https://github.com/rust-embedded/book/pull/20
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2018-09-11 20:22:52 ~japaric I have written content for this section that covers writing an embedded program that runs on QEMU; it then covers how to run the program on hardware
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2018-09-11 20:23:04 @theJPster sorry I'm late. Got in late, parcels to collect, dinner to cook...
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2018-09-11 20:23:37 * japaric waves theJPster
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2018-09-11 20:23:42 * theJPster can't find the etherpad
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2018-09-11 20:23:49 ~japaric etherpad is down
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2018-09-11 20:23:52 @theJPster :(
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2018-09-11 20:23:55 ~japaric theJPster: https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Embedded-WG--AMhRQnCqT0_UrRKlO6PGPW7vAg-5pdv734N8KpxHFMJijuoL
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2018-09-11 20:24:32 ~japaric theJPster: currently discussing issue 9
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2018-09-11 20:25:05 ~japaric I hope that land that PR this week after the beta comes out
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2018-09-11 20:25:30 ~japaric oh, and I forgot to mention but panic_handler will be available in the beta that comes out this week
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2018-09-11 20:25:45 ~japaric so you should be able to follow the book using 1.30-beta
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2018-09-11 20:26:10 @theJPster yay
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2018-09-11 20:26:30 ~japaric I'll also be updating discovery and the embedonomicon this week to work with 1.30-beta
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2018-09-11 20:26:51 @korken89 Awesome!
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2018-09-11 20:26:56 @adamgreig +1, yay beta
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2018-09-11 20:28:04 @adamgreig as i mentioned last meeting i expect to have some time this week to have a crack at (some of) concurrency/tips for C/integration with C chapters, though as before if anyone is keen or interested please shout out and take them
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2018-09-11 20:28:05 @therealprof I absolutely love the new #[entry] and #[exception] macros.
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2018-09-11 20:28:41 @adamgreig especially shout if you're interested in doing concurrency as it's probably my least comfortable of the topics
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2018-09-11 20:28:42 ~japaric re issue 9 / section 2. If you have more suggestions about what else to cover leave comments in https://github.com/rust-embedded/book/issues/4
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2018-09-11 20:29:36 ~japaric I think that's it for issue 9
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2018-09-11 20:29:38 @therealprof I've converted both my stm32f042 and nrf51 series of crates to use the latest cortex-m-rt stuff. I'm hoping we can land the #[interrupt] macro as well so we have a complete and ergonomic story.
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2018-09-11 20:30:05 ~japaric picking back up issue 8, which I skipped
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2018-09-11 20:30:18 ~japaric the setup instructions need to be updated
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2018-09-11 20:30:33 ~japaric because of the new PR (#20)
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2018-09-11 20:30:47 ~japaric they have to cover installing cargo-genarate, using the beta, remove gcc, etc.
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2018-09-11 20:31:12 @theJPster :)
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2018-09-11 20:31:35 @theJPster can we get cargo-generate pre-packaged in some way? cargo-foo things are a bit of an ass to build
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2018-09-11 20:31:41 ~japaric I guess I can do that since the requisites are in my head
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2018-09-11 20:31:55 @adamgreig it's sort of a shame cargo-generate requires openssl/cmake be installed i guess
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2018-09-11 20:32:01 ~japaric theJPster: last time I head, the plan was to ship cargo-generate as a built-in Cargo command
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2018-09-11 20:32:15 @adamgreig that'd be nice
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2018-09-11 20:32:29 ~japaric I have also requested to have cargo-add shipped as a built-in Cargo command
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2018-09-11 20:33:08 ~japaric cargo-add issue: https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/5586 if you want make noise
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2018-09-11 20:33:43 ~japaric I'll check with the cargo team to see if built-in cargo-generate is going to happen
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2018-09-11 20:34:53 ~japaric other than that, issue 8 also has an open PR. I think there's still other stuff to cover in it
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2018-09-11 20:35:36 ~japaric I think that's all for issue 8
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2018-09-11 20:36:23 ~japaric issue 10, we have to decide what else to cover
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2018-09-11 20:36:49 ~japaric I asked on the thread if it would make sense to cover &'static mut T, which is the no-allocator version of Box<T>
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2018-09-11 20:37:09 ~japaric no answer yet, so I'll check back later
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2018-09-11 20:37:16 @therealprof Re: cargo add-ins. cargo-bloat was recently broken for embedded by a cargo dependency update. Swift reaction of the developer after the report fixed the problem by removing the cargo dependency and another update also made it work for embedded again.
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2018-09-11 20:38:46 ~japaric ok, moving on. section 11 saw no progress last week
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2018-09-11 20:39:10 ~japaric I won't have time to work on that this week
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2018-09-11 20:39:30 ~japaric but adamgreig might be able to do some work this week
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2018-09-11 20:39:51 @therealprof It's been hard to keep up with you last week. ;)
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2018-09-11 20:40:42 ~japaric therealprof: I'm busy this week so you'll have an easier time
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2018-09-11 20:41:22 ~japaric ok, next: issues 12 and 13 are waiting for a PR to be reviewed.
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2018-09-11 20:41:35 ~japaric sadly, haven't had a chance to look at it
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2018-09-11 20:42:08 @korken89 Same here, I will start helping a lot more actively after the upcoming Monday (heavy deadlines right now)
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2018-09-11 20:42:19 ~japaric probably won't have time this week either since I'm prioritizing writing / updating books
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2018-09-11 20:42:33 ~japaric so it'd be nice if someone else could take a look
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2018-09-11 20:43:08 @therealprof Where's the PR for 12 and 13?
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2018-09-11 20:43:27 ~japaric https://github.com/rust-embedded/book/pull/15
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2018-09-11 20:43:29 ~japaric therealprof: ^
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2018-09-11 20:44:04 @therealprof I'll review it later today.
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2018-09-11 20:44:20 ~japaric therealprof: +1
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2018-09-11 20:44:22 @korken89 Thanks!
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2018-09-11 20:44:37 @therealprof Watched that talk from jamesmunns the other day. That was really a good one.
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2018-09-11 20:45:25 ~japaric next: issues 14 and 15 saw no progress last week
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2018-09-11 20:45:51 ~japaric adamgreig and somewhere else volunteered to write stuff in the coming weeks, iirc
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2018-09-11 20:46:09 @korken89 I was one of the ones volunteering
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2018-09-11 20:46:26 ~japaric korken89: for both?
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2018-09-11 20:46:35 @adamgreig yep, I should have some time this week to have a go, was going to be looking at the two c sections first and potentially then concurrency but if aynone else wants to do any then please do
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2018-09-11 20:46:35 * japaric looks at last week minutes
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2018-09-11 20:46:38 @korken89 14
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2018-09-11 20:46:45 @korken89 (After Monday :) )
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2018-09-11 20:46:53 @adamgreig korken89: i'll start with 15 if you wanna take 14 then :P
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2018-09-11 20:47:11 @korken89 adamgreig: Sure!
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2018-09-11 20:47:17 @adamgreig though 'tips' is probably quite amenable to a bunch of people contributing
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2018-09-11 20:47:45 @korken89 s/Tips/Guidelines
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2018-09-11 20:47:53 @korken89 ?
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2018-09-11 20:48:02 @adamgreig I guess it will be a mix of both
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2018-09-11 20:48:07 @korken89 Probably
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2018-09-11 20:48:12 ~japaric members.par_iter().map(write_tips)
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2018-09-11 20:48:22 @therealprof :-D
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2018-09-11 20:48:22 @korken89 We start writing and see what happens :)
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2018-09-11 20:48:26 @adamgreig I expect some amount of "you're used to doing this in C, but in rust you should instead do this because of this"
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2018-09-11 20:48:34 @therealprof You forgot to collect. ;)
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2018-09-11 20:48:51 ~japaric s/map/for_each/ probably
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2018-09-11 20:49:47 ~japaric ok, issue 17
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2018-09-11 20:50:10 @korken89 Was there a decision to move it to an ish-WiKi?
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2018-09-11 20:50:10 ~japaric the other book about debugging
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2018-09-11 20:50:17 ~japaric https://github.com/rust-embedded/new-book
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2018-09-11 20:50:22 ~japaric it now has a repo ^
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2018-09-11 20:50:41 @korken89 Ahh
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2018-09-11 20:50:48 ~japaric if you want to be a collab to that repo ping me
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2018-09-11 20:51:26 @korken89 I will probably help there
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2018-09-11 20:51:38 @korken89 Ah I was already there, nvm :)
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2018-09-11 20:51:40 ~japaric also it needs a better name
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2018-09-11 20:52:22 ~japaric but I guess you can bikeshed a name in a GH issue
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2018-09-11 20:52:41 @korken89 Rust
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2018-09-11 20:52:43 ~japaric last issue is the embedded rust showcase
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2018-09-11 20:53:05 ~japaric anyone wants to volunteer to make it happen?
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2018-09-11 20:54:28 ~japaric I'll take that as a not yet
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2018-09-11 20:54:43 ~japaric ok, any (short) news that you want to share in the last 5 mins?
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2018-09-11 20:55:55 @theJPster I'm at Retro Computer Festival this weekend
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2018-09-11 20:56:08 @theJPster https://twitter.com/therealjpster/status/1039579088292401160
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2018-09-11 20:56:09 @therealprof Guess I fired all my shots too early. ;)
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2018-09-11 20:56:13 @theJPster I might take orders for shirts :)
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2018-09-11 20:56:33 ~japaric theJPster: cool!
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2018-09-11 20:56:33 @theJPster Also, I have like 1,000 cards with all the embedded URLs on the back
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2018-09-11 20:56:38 @theJPster so hit me up if you want some
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2018-09-11 20:57:30 @theJPster (there's two of that pack you see on the edge of the box)
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2018-09-11 20:57:49 @adamgreig aw, I'd come along if I was still in Cambridge. enjoy
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2018-09-11 20:59:10 @korken89 Sorry, I have to leave - thanks for today all!
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2018-09-11 20:59:36 ~japaric ok, that's all for this meeting. Thank you all for attending. See you next week!

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# Embedded WG
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- [Coordination repository](https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg)
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- [Milestone issues](https://github.com/search?q=org%3Arust-embedded++is%3Aopen+milestone%3Arc1&type=Issues)
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- Meetings: Tuesdays 8 PM CEST (UTC+2) - #rust-embedded @ irc.mozilla.org
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# Attendance
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Write your GH username or IRC handle here!
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- japaric
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- adamgreig
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- posborne
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- korken89
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- hannobraun
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- awygle
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- therealprof
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- theJPster (was late…)
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# Reminders
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- [[RFC] Add voting majority RFC](https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/pull/206)
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- [[RFC] Initial Cortex-A team](https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/pull/207)
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# Agenda
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## Backlog
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[ ] 1 [test embedded targets in rust-lang/rust](https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/issues/52)
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Status: compile tests have landed
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Next steps: land link tests and QEMU tests
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[ ] 2 [Discovery: port code to the 2018 edition](https://github.com/rust-embedded/discovery/issues/102)
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Status: japaric will implement this week
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[ ] 3 [embedonomicon: Can you replicate the examples on Windows?](https://github.com/rust-embedded/embedonomicon/issues/8)
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Status: problems have been reported
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Next steps: follow up and fix the problems
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[ ] 4 [embedonomicon: Can you replicate the examples on macOS?](https://github.com/rust-embedded/embedonomicon/issues/7)
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[ ] 5 [Provide cargo-generate templates](https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/issues/146)
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## 2018 edition
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[ ] 8 [Book: Introduction](https://github.com/rust-embedded/book/issues/3)
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[ ] 9 [Book: Blinking your first LED](https://github.com/rust-embedded/book/issues/4)
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