Global level glide & legato

[audio2000]

First off, what is happening to the SFZ format, why are all these sites no longer active?
I was wondering if someone could provide some information about glide & legato.
To clarify when I say "glide" I am referring to when two notes are played and the overlap each other they glide the pitch from one note to the other. Before asking my questions, I would like to give an example of why I am looking for this in the way that I am.

---

EXAMPLE
Say you are not a sfz instrument creator and you have a bunch of sfz instruments.
Whether that be from....
-downloading many random sfz instruments
-converting many instruments in other formats to sfz format
-downloaded an orchestral set of instruments that contained 75 instruments
First you do not even know if they are any good, but even if they are, what if you wanted many common parameters linked to CCs applied to all of them. Are you really going to want to/be able to go into each .sfz text file and modify specific code to apply these parameters to each specific sfz instrument one at a time? Also can be even tougher because some SFZ instruments already contain CC parameters by default, so you then have to figure out which ones they do or do not contain and then add them.
Not a very efficient process.

---

Because with SFZ you do not have a choice but to edit each file one at a time, I am looking for a way to just be able to paste in these CC parameters into each instrument on the "global" level to apply them to the entire instrument.
With parameters such as volume ADSR this appears that it can be done.
However desired parameters such as glide & legato (and probably some others) I have not seen any examples of simple "global" level based code to achieve them. Honestly I do not think I have even seen any code for the glide (overlapping notes) feature I described above at all, but these kinds of parameters seem to require lower level editing (under global) to achieve them, requiring each instrument to have to be highly edited each specific instrument one at a time.
I have already seen the polyphonic/legato/portamento page on sfzformat.com

---

DOES ANYONE KNOW OF....
-A simple global level way to achieve legato
-A simple global level way to achieve glide (as described)
(anything complex probably not going to be possible/worth doing to multiple instruments)
-Also in general does anyone know of any glide code that can achieve the overlapping pitch glide I described above?

Hopefully this was not a waste to type all of this here.
Because this site does not seem to have any activity, even if no one has an answer, at least could a couple people respond that they read this and do not know the answer just so I know that someone is going to this site.
Also if anyone knows of a good place still active to ask these types of SFZ based questions, please let me know.

Thank you to anyone who reads all of this

[DSmolken]

It's sort of possible, but glide doesn't sound all that great for sampled orchestral instruments unless the glide range isn't very wide (maybe a major third at most) or the glide is very short. It is documented in https://sfzformat.com/tutorials/legato/ and that should be getting updated soon as I'm working on an instrument with true legato sampling now and it needed a few more solutions to specific ways of sampling that I'll need to document. I also want to add rebowing.

Having said that, a simple module that you can swap into any instrument that will sort of do a decent job, well, somebody could write that based on the above tutorial and String Cyborgs which I think do have a porta time control. I'm terrible at making simple friendly things, though, so better leave that job to someone else.

The lack of website ability is partly a side effect of Github MFA... to log in I have to go get my phone, turn it on, and so on, so small updates often wait until there's something bigger... so there aren't regular commits. But the Discord is probably more active in the past few weeks than it's ever been.

[audio2000]

Thank you for responding.
Yeah legato and glide (overlapping notes glide) seem to be two coded items that require lower than global level coding to achieve unfortunately. Was hoping for something that could just be applied on global level to many different instruments. Even if there was does not seem to be too many people that I know of with the knowledge on how to pull it off.
I don't think I saw glide in Cyborg Strings, I saw it in Meatbass but that appears to be the single note pitch up kind of glide that many refer to as portamento. I found the type of glide I was looking for in the first preset sfz file of the instrument called Squidpipes.
I didn't know about the Discord channel, but I do not have an account at the moment. Was looking for some sfz based forums.
Anyways, while I have you here, just wanted to say thank you for all the instruments you provide, I see your name around a lot :)
Thanks Again

[DSmolken]

Ah, I think I see what you're looking for, more or less. You could copy the glide settings from Squidpipes, but it's got a lot of extra stuff like unison voices that you don't need. The glide in Meatbass and String Cyborgs is "pretty much" the same from what I remember, would have to see how different they are.

Anyway, a lot of it can be applied under the global header but assuming you have a simple orchestral instrument, you'll need different treatment for the first note of a legato phrase and for all the following notes, so something like this...

<global>
group=1 //Make the instrument mono
off_by=1
off_mode=time
off_time=0.25
eg06_sustain=1 //Pitch envelope setup for legato slides
eg06_level0=-1
eg06_time0=0
eg06_pitch_oncc140=100 //CC140 is keydelta in ARIA, so the difference between the current MIDI note and the previous MIDI note
eg06_time1=0
eg06_level1=0 //When this is 0, the envelope really does nothing
//eg06_time1_oncc124 needs to be set for the legato regions - but we don't want it on for all regions so the default is 0

<master>
trigger=first
#include "sample_map.sfz" //Or just paste all your sample regions in here

<master>
trigger=legato
eg06_time1_oncc124=0.3
#include "sample_map.sfz" //Or just paste the sample regions in here again

[audio2000]

Thank you for your reply, I will give this a try.
Okay so the legato example you mentioned is same one on tutorial page, so it will require the "master" header and will have to paste the same list of samples twice one in each of the "master"s
Thank You

[DSmolken]

Yeah, you generally want the first note of a legato phrase to not do a glide, so that's why you can't just put one set of opcodes under a global header - splitting into trigger=first and trigger=legato behavior makes sense (and with most instruments requires duplicating the regions).

[Buy-One]

In the snippet above the sustain is attributed to pitch envelope:

eg06_sustain=1 //Pitch envelope setup for legato slides

I wonder what defines the envelope as a pitch envelope. Other than the line eg06_pitch_oncc140=100 nothing associates the eg06 with pitch.

With regard to the SFZ Discord server, when i access the link https://discord.com/invite/t7nrZ6d from sfzformat.com website my request to accept invite is rejected.