Using Jolt as a Bluetooth long range relay device #7785
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Having got the Bangle js2 to act as a peripheral to the Play-Cricket Scorer app, running on an iPad (this is a constraint), I've now tested the range from the iPad to the Bangle and it is appalling! The iPad (on BT 4.2) drops the connection at about 15m line-of-sight. I didn't imagine it would be that useless. So now I am looking at options to extend that range. I like the idea of using a Pixl to act as a peripheral mini scoreboard over 1mbps phy but then replaying the characteristic to the Bangle js2 over coded phy. Would that work? The data is tiny, typically a string of 8-10 characters, and occur every 30 seconds or so, in a burst of 3-5 messages 100ms or more apart. Could I just advertise this data on coded phy without the Bangle needing to actually connect? Or could the Pixl connect to both central and peripheral devices to relay messages? |
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Hi! Unfortunately Pixl.js uses the nRF52832 which can't do Bluetooth Long Range. You could use another Bangle.js, or a Jolt.js (but that has no display). It would be pretty trivial to hook a Jolt.js up to a display (even potentially a big 7 segment one), but it's not an 'out of the box' solution. Assuming you did that though:
I'd imagine so - you could probably scan on coded phy and then have the 'relay' device advertise itself but on normal Phy?
I think it could do that too (holding central+periph at the same time isn't a problem), although while Pixl/Jolt/Bangle/etc can all do that only Jolt/bangle currently do the long range. |
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And BTW if I let it connect over coded phy and then run NRF.updateConnection({"phy":"auto"}) on the peripheral it will switch to 2mbps for me, here is output on the central side, 7 is 1+2+4=all requested, 2 is the result >gatt.phy_req
=[ 7, 7 ]
>gatt.phy_res
=[ 0, 2, 2 ] |
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Looking outside of Nordic, there seems to be a couple of things which are implied by coded phy "long range at both 500 kbps and 125 kbps speeds" and "receive sensitivity of the coded PHY at -101 dBm (500 kbps) and -106 dBm (125 kbps)" [https://community.infineon.com/t5/Blogs/Long-Range-Communication-with-Bluetooth-Really/ba-p/436291#.] I'll start recording RSSI scans when testing, and see whether there is a difference between the cutoff behaviour on coded vs 1mbps, and maybe 2mbps |
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Hi! Unfortunately Pixl.js uses the nRF52832 which can't do Bluetooth Long Range. You could use another Bangle.js, or a Jolt.js (but that has no display).
It would be pretty trivial to hook a Jolt.js up to a display (even potentially a big 7 segment one), but it's not an 'out of the box' solution. Assuming you did that though:
I'd imagine so - you could probably scan on coded phy and then have the 'relay' device advertise itself but on normal Phy?
I think it could do that too (holding central+periph at the same…