Moving to a better place

[Donnnno]

I would like to start the discussion about moving to Codeberg or something else again. I've tried it in the past, but had some trouble setting it up.
GitHub offers many features that make it super easy to use for noobs like me, so I'm curious what the pro's and cons are of moving, to get an idea if it's worth doing in general.

[JacksonChen666]

I moved synadm to Codeberg, so I'll chime in with a few things when migrating:

• Consider how people will be notified about this. @-ing room on Matrix and etc. platforms, putting the new link in the README prominently and archiving the repos, changing links in places where you can change the links, making an in-app notice, and maybe even making a blog post might not be enough, as you may leave out people who are subscribed to issues but doesn't get anything else about the project.
• Codeberg has a CI system probably similar to GH actions, but don't expect stability or reliability. It also requires asking for access. See https://docs.codeberg.org/ci/
• Codeberg (specifically Forgejo) has built-in migration of lots of things, like issues, PRs, milestones, etc. and accounts migrated from GitHub are linked to Codeberg accounts via signing into GitHub (I have no idea how easily that is going to be described)
• I migrated synadm. I made a checklist for ourselves specifically. It may be useful as a thing to copy and expand upon on.

The easiest part is probably the code repository. The harder part is everything that depends on the repository being at GitHub. The hardest part might be community.

Codeberg (Forgejo) has somewhat more flexibility in what's enabled in repos, including ability to disable code and PRs completely, which can be useful for a repo for "discussions" like this here.

[Donnnno]

Thank you for your insights! That helps a lot.
I'm mostly worried about CI, we're pretty dependent on those for all our checks.

Community and accessibility is something I'm worried about too, GitHub Desktop makes the whole creating and checking PRs really easy, so I'm curious what alternatives for that are.

Also, our entire site is hosted on Github pages right now, I've read that codeberg has pages too, but idk if it works as good as Githubs one. There's also the possibility to do that via Cloudflare maybe.

[JacksonChen666]

I'm mostly worried about CI, we're pretty dependent on those for all our checks.

Would suggest trying that and seeing it if it works. IIRC GitHub Actions templates or whatever is used but there is likely going to be some difference. If you want some examples, there is GoToSocial and Tusky, both of which has recently migrated to Codeberg (code) and Woodpecker (for CI).

Community and accessibility is something I'm worried about too, GitHub Desktop makes the whole creating and checking PRs really easy, so I'm curious what alternatives for that are.

I'm not sure about that. I only know of a couple of Forgejo CLI things, and know none of Forgejo GUI things that are beginner-friendly (it doesn't exist probably because the idea was to make it generic and not tied to Codeberg, but also, I don't think it was ever started). I don't think the web editor would be much helpful with this project unless I guess if they can implement an SVG editor or something

Also, our entire site is hosted on Github pages right now, I've read that codeberg has pages too, but idk if it works as good as Githubs one. There's also the possibility to do that via Cloudflare maybe.

Codeberg pages is a thing, and I doubt it's much different. Static pages hosting is pretty basic boring stuff.

Codeberg's style is dumping files into a repo or branch named "pages". This is different from GitHub, where the CI takes the output and then gives it to GitHub pages pretty much directly (IIRC).

Custom domains are supported too. HTTPS stuff is automatic as well.

[warimiya]

I'm not very knowledgable on the CI / Actions sides, so no comments there. 😅

I did try Codeberg out and moved some of my repos there, and I think it's pretty nice!
It's much faster compared to when I tried it ages ago, at least.
The repo migration was completely painless for me, but my repos barely have anything, unlike Arcticons.

I do find some UI elements (like the "add files" button or the clone URL) a bit harder to spot compared to GitHub, though, but nothing too hard. If we do move there someday, we probably want to add some screenshots to the documentation to help new contributors navigate the site. 🤔

The only thing I kind of miss is a user-friendly Android app for push notifications on repo updates. There's GitNex, which is free if you download it outside Play Store, but new contributors might not know about that. I also find it a bit clunky and harder to use compared to GitHub's official client.

Probably not that big of a barrier, just something some might miss having.

[Donnnno]

Completely agree on the mobile experience, it's so easy to check issues and pr's within the app!