Wikipedia article

[dicktyr]

the ksh article on Wikipedia lists Primary individual contributors
but developers of the current/active branch are not listed

is there any objection to adding them to the list?

[jghub]

just a comment -- I had a short look at that wikipedia page (never did before...) and it seems that it is partly "factually challenged" somewhat. especially the role/current relevance of ksh93u+m and ksh2020 become less then clear.

you also could not just add the ksh93u+m developer(s) to the "Primary contributions to the main software branch" paragraph since it is based (erroneously in my view) on the explicit premise that there is a "main software branch of KSH is defined as the original program, dating from July 1983, up and through the release of KSH2020 in late 2019." thus leaving the impression that ksh2020 is part of the "main branch" and nothing important has happened afterwards (the opposite seems correct...).

so it seems either the page needs some serious modifications or should be ignored and left alone :). just my 2c...

[dicktyr]

good points, thank you

I clarified the end of the History section
in regard to ksh2020 and this branch

but you're right: the next section is a mess
Primary contributions to the main software branch
and I'll leave that alone
(although I did post a note on the Talk page)

[hlangeveld]

For the history section it would be interesting if we could find evidence of the AT&T Toolchest. Even though the AST software bundle was proprietary, I recall that the Toolchest offered source code for 10k US$ or so.

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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, at 03:32, Richard Taityr wrote: good points, thank you I clarified the end of the [History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KornShell#History) section in regard to ksh2020 and this branch but you're right: the next section is a mess [Primary contributions to the main software branch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KornShell#Primary_contributions_to_the_main_software_branch) and I'll leave that alone (although I did post a note in the Talk page) -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: #822 (reply in thread) You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Message ID: ***@***.***>

[hlangeveld]

On second thought, I think the Toolchest was older than ksh93, and I don't know if it was continued or if ksh93 was ever part of it. So no sources that we could update that history with.

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, at 08:45, Henk Langeveld wrote: For the history section it would be interesting if we could find evidence of the AT&T Toolchest. Even though the AST software bundle was proprietary, I recall that the Toolchest offered source code for 10k US$ or so. On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, at 03:32, Richard Taityr wrote: > good points, thank you > > I clarified the end of the > [History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KornShell#History) section > in regard to ksh2020 and this branch > > but you're right: the next section is a mess > [Primary contributions to the main software > branch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KornShell#Primary_contributions_to_the_main_software_branch) > and I'll leave that alone > (although I did post a note in the Talk page) > > > -- > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: > #822 (reply in thread) > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > > Message ID: ***@***.***>