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I cannot replicate your issue with the value not showing
px is the only valid unit of measurement for an image
Glad to see that you feel so strongly about this that you are shouting. Looking forward to seeing some constructive proposals |
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Not sure how you can justify that statement. Surely you know thats false for responsive images. I did discover an issue with FF dev but it seems the original statement of resizing value not showing fully is corrected in git. I know she's using a "release" version.
I do feel strongly about Joomla! We are letting so many little things that should've shown up in testing slip thru that its frustrating and quite frankly embarassing. When I have a designer tell me she can't possibly use 4 for clients and show me why it's frustrating. It feels like more and more we're writing Joomla! for dev's not users.
I do what I can. The last 6+ mo have been rough for me personally. Not going to go into details here, JBS knows whats up. Even just posting a bug and explaining why its a bug is "constructive". It's just as valid as a pr for a typo. |
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What other units of measurement are valid for an img |
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it does for me |
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so, the fact you can't control your image sizing or layout is just fine with you.. Ok.. very constructive. |
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of course you can. |
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@N6REJ With image and pixels Brian is right. Check here: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images.asp
For responsive images you use the picture element: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images_picture.asp |
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The attributes There's nothing missing, as far as I understand all the provided inputs provided... |
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@richard67 @dgrammatiko ty for starting a constructive conversation. I think in the debate over px or non px the main issue got sidetracked. Youtube video explaining: https://youtu.be/yVjWx4erK4k |
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hmmm.. so how do we.. protect?... our image? Do we just tell clients, they need to use a real editor like jce? |
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doubt it will do any good but submitted tinymce/tinymce#7442 |
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jce is also tinyMCE and an outdated one. Please make a list of things that you're missing and maybe someone will be able to do something about that |
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ok. Let me talk to ali since she's the designer that has ... difficult... clients the most and get her full list. This video is what was recently brought up. |
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BTW if people are still using inline styles to do the styling they need to do some catch-up and some CSS reading... |
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Hi Dimitris - The issue isn't me (integrator level) - we can learn and yes do the class thing. I'm talking about my clients who manage their own sites and even with training and reminders they still use WYSIWYG to get things done day to day. Making the transition from older versions of J into J4 it will be harder still as they are used to what they could do day to day. That may not be perfect but it is reality and even more so if they have managed to cobble the site together themselves and don't have someone training (or trying to - they also have habits and when rushing to get work done they just want it done). I have used JCE since forever on my sites but am taking the time to get comfy with the new Media Manager as I know many many hours have gone into making it. I've also been watching you talking about JCE using a very old Tiny version. Currently in J4 MM to add an image, right align, add spacing to the left you have to do these steps; use the CMS/Media tool to find the image and place it (current position left), select the image and click align right as if aligning text (current position now right), now select image again and go back to CMS/Media tool and add the left wrap spacing. This is just wrong with wrong sauce. Since the correct way is to use classes could a couple classes be added (radio or other easy visible option) for left/center/right align? |
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You're right it isn't. That said, thank you for saying why. I'll carry on building and end users can suck it up. |
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As an integrator, you can provide pre-built templates for the content, @brianteeman has a great tutorial on this subject. |
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Thank you for your time. I can provide pre-builts (I'm loving the possibilities with the Stamp tool as Brian showed in his JUG NJ talk) but sometimes there are cases that their post doesn't fit a preordained style. Anyhow like I said, I am trying to present a point for those who typically never get a voice here and simply choose another CMS. |
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Not every piece of software will ever be suitable for everyone (and nor should it) |
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Fully agree Brian. I just remember the big flap at the forum for making a more friendly interface. |
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Image handling in tinymce is abissmal at best. When you select an image you need to toggle the drop down for "advance" to get to insert then you need to select the image and hit the image icon to make adjustsments, which you can't do because the "style" field has broken editing ability.
"Vertical spacing" & "Horizontal spacing" are mediocre at best.
The user should have full control over how they want the image laid out and simply saying "use classes" is not acceptable for a USER.
For a dev possibly but they shouldn't be required to jump through so many hoops....
Reizing function is crippled...
you can't change from pixels to any other measurement so your images cant' be made responsive. nor does the full image sizing value show.
WE CAN DO BETTER THEN THIS!!!!
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