[Feature request/Regression] Import .ora file format

[samytichadou]

Hi, i know it is early in the friction dev to ask for feature request, but this is a regression from the original enve, so i thought i'd make an issue to know if there is plan for this.

There is currently no way to get proper multi layered krita file (or other psd-like) in enve without a tedious import export process through png. And to keep the original location, you have to export these png to the original size. I'm guessing this impacts friction performance (tried once with a 2400x3500 file).

Original Enve lets you import an .ora (Open Raster format) and kept all the layer in place, ready for you to animate. And the performance are still very ok with the same 2400x3500 file, compared to friction with multiple big transparent pngs.

Is there any plan to bring back this feature ?

I tried to use the feature, save in enve, and open in friction, no luck here (it was a long shot i know).

Thanks for your hard work on friction, cheers !

[rodlie]

Hi,

ORA (and similar) was removed due to it's dependence on other parts I removed.

I'm planning on adding support for more file formats in the future, but in a different way than what was done in enve.

[samytichadou]

Ok, thanks for the details !
Eager to use friction to make some cutout animation when it will be added :)

[AlexKiryanov]

Hi all! Yes, to be honest this is an important function for the program. Especially, importing files with layer support (such as ora)
Can you tell us what formats you would add in the future?

[rodlie]

I might add back the ORA feature in the next release (0.9.6+).

Can you tell us what formats you would add in the future?

PSD/XCF/EXR

[rodlie]

Was looking at the old ORA code last night and adding it back will require some work, mostly since it depends on the removed (my)paint stuff.

Why it needs a mypaint surface I don't know, there is no logical reason for this (IMHO).

[samytichadou]

awesome that you are giving a try on this feature, i think this is a must have for cutout animation :)
I really don't know either, when i used it in enve, i don't recall any mypaint surface or specific elements being created on import.
A quick search on the ora website (https://www.openraster.org/) does not return any mypaint specific IO/specifications except for what seems to be an extension proposal for palette implementation (https://www.openraster.org/proposals/palette.html#)

[rodlie]

i don't recall any mypaint surface or specific elements being created on import.

In the code it uses the mypaint surface to handle/store the images, since it's just PNG's I don't know why. The only way to figure this out is to add back the ORA stuff and replace the mypaint surface with skia and see what happens 😄

[samytichadou]

i don't recall any mypaint surface or specific elements being created on import.

In the code it uses the mypaint surface to handle/store the images, since it's just PNG's I don't know why. The only way to figure this out is to add back the ORA stuff and replace the mypaint surface with skia and see what happens 😄

Aah ok, didn't get that, that may explains the performance difference between the ora import and the "manual png per layer" i experienced ?

I'm no code expert but if i can help in anyway, like test with my files or whatever comes to your mind, don't hesitate ! :)