[Feature Request] feedback after migration: ip rules set, parsing of ips, autosaves and more

[P6g9YHK6]

Feedback After Migrating from NPM to Pangolin

Migration Context

I migrated from NPM primarily due to the lack of timely follow-up on CVEs. In contrast, I’ve taken a strong liking to this project, which I view as a modern and cleaner GUI frontend for Traefik.

I’m not personally interested in the built-in VPN/tunnel functionality I prefer to manage my own networking and tunnels but I did still install the full VPN stack for potential testing down the line. The SSO login feature, however, is a welcome addition to my stack.

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Setup Notes

I started from scratch using only Pangolin and its documentation nothing else i avoided the recommended youtube videos.
I chose the manual setup path because I avoid automated Docker install scripts I like to know exactly where files go and how everything connects.

Specificity:

I assigned a dedicated IP to the reverse proxy container. This eliminates the need to expose ports at the Docker level. With this setup, I route all internal TCP/UDP traffic via DNS wildcards to the reverse proxy, which then forwards it to the correct internal hosts. External/public traffic continues to be routed through my main edge router.

In my opinion, this should be the default recommended installation method, as Pangolin functions more like a virtual appliance than a traditional ephemeral Docker container (I can already hear the security engineers screaming in the background).
This setup would also solve the current issue of needing to expose ports on the Docker level every time a new raw resource is added.
But that's just my grain of salt not a formal request. 🧂

gerbil:
  image: fosrl/gerbil:1.0.0
  container_name: gerbil
  restart: unless-stopped
  networks:
    default: {}
    br0:
      ipv4_address: 192.168.1.6

What i have lost:

• No more static webpage hosting, while i understand that Traefik does not support hosting of HTML files this is still something i have now to spin up a dedicated infrastructure for.
• No more single cert for both *.basedomain.com & basedomain.com this is annoying if i have another service that needs this i need another cert generation.

For example to replace the static webpage hosting:

  cv:
    container_name: nginx
    image: nginx:alpine
    ports:
      - 8087:80
    volumes:
      - ${path_root}nginx/:/usr/share/nginx/html:ro

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Here’s a the big list of Improvements That Would've Made My Migration and Usability Smoother:

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1. IP Rules: Global Sets + Usability

1.1 Shared IP Rule Sets

Most of my hosts use common rules (e.g., allow local IPs, office IPs, VPN).
Currently, rules are set per-host only, but global/shared IP rules would save a ton of time.

• NPM handles this via reusable IP lists.
• Please add the ability to create and reuse IP allow/deny lists.

1.2 IP Range vs. Single IP

Don’t make the user choose between "IP" and "IP Range".
If someone enters 192.168.1.2, just assume /32 automatically.

1.3 Add rule changes match type

Pressing the Add rule button changes the Match type this is annoying when adding big quantities of rules

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2. Target URL Parsing

2.1 Smart Parsing for Host Targets

When pasting a URL like http://192.168.1.2:81, auto-split it into:

• Protocol: http://
• Host/IP: 192.168.1.2
• Port: 81

…and strip out the extras.

2.2 Multiple Hostnames for a Single Resource

Let me define multiple domains (example.com, www.example.com) on the same resource.
Duplicating config for every alias is a chore.

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3. UX: Save Flow & Tab Behavior

3.1 Tab Switching = Lost Changes

When switching tabs on a resource config, changes get lost if you forget to hit "Save" first. That’s painful.

3.2 Leave Warning

Add a beforeunload browser prompt when unsaved changes exist:

“Are you sure you want to leave this page?”

MDN Docs for reference

3.3 Merge Tabs into One Page

Instead of hiding settings across the 4 tabs "General Proxy Authentication Rules", just give me a readable single-page layout.
Clicking back and forth is inefficient, and vertical scroll is not a sin even tho there are plenty of dead spaces in these tabs.

3.4 Too many clicks for a new hosts

Same-ich as 3.3 but different in the ui currently so it is another point.

When deploying a new resource you first have to save the title and host before being granted access to the settings thats not necessary and all options should be there from the get-go.

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4. Dashboard Enhancements

4.1 Show Target in the Dashboard

Add a "Target" column to the main Resources page so I can quickly see what’s pointing where.

4.2 Customizable Columns

Even better: let users toggle which columns are visible.

4.3 Status icons

Next to each resource, display a small status indicator if the target is not responding to a simple TCP check.
Not asking for full-blown monitoring just a quick QOL check that's refreshed when the UI reloads.
It would make spotting downed hosts much easier at a glance.

4.4 Does not save amount of entries

This value is never saved on any of the dashboard... do you want me to pull my eyeballs out ? i have to set it after each refresh of a page this is beyond sadistic UX design.

4.5 Weird "Enter" behaviors

I have on almost all fields tried to type press the Enter key and almost every time the result was... weird.
For example in this case pressing Enter refresh the page in place of submitting the entry.

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5. Docker Label-Based Config

Why not support full config via Docker labels (e.g. like Traefik)?
This would simplify automation in container-heavy setups. In my case i would have used this for all my containers and the ui for non docker hosts.

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6. SSL Management from the GUI

Managing multiple SSL certificates from multiple config files is a pain in the bottom.
There should be a centralized SSL management UI in the panel.

For exemple:

If Traefik’s certificate handling is the blocker maybe consider ditching Traefik in favor of a more flexible solution? (it is a supposition i do not know)

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7. Raw TCP/UDP

Adding automatically the entries in traefik_config.yml for all the resource would be nice.

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8. Health check

Gerbil does not have an included health check maybe add this to the default compose and traefik too ?

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9. Path for Traefik add-ons ?

While the project support Crowdsec there is no documentation on how to implement it if you followed the manual setup path.
This is the documentation:
Installation. Crowdsec can be installed using the Pangolin Installer.

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10. Customizable SSO page

The SSO login page should be customizable to better match local branding.

Ideally, this could be done in one of two ways:

• Simple Web UI (like UniFi): change logo, background, text, colors.
• HTML/CSS Template in the config directory: for full control over layout and styling.

Either option would make the login experience feel more homey, especially in internal or multi-user environments.
My personal preference would be the full control over the html page.

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11. Simple redirections

A simple UI to create resources that would forward one host to another, similar to what NPM proposes.

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12. Custom HTML template for errors

Who doesn’t like to have custom error pages? It’s fun, and a framework to implement it would be NOICE.
The default 404 is making me want to help it end its days.

All of this would allow you to have by default pangolin branded error pages 🤫 And get a famous artist to draw-up your default errors
Pretty sure some would kill to get commissioned for that.
here a small idea of what could be done:

inspiration from:
https://happydorid.tumblr.com/image/106988062584

Here is the traefik documentation for this:
https://doc.traefik.io/traefik/middlewares/http/errorpages/

This is what I had done on nginx:

root /websites;
location / {
    error_page 400 /error_pages/HTTP400.html;
    error_page 401 /error_pages/HTTP402.html;
    error_page 402 /error_pages/HTTP402.html;
    error_page 403 /error_pages/HTTP403.html;
    error_page 404 /error_pages/HTTP404.html;
    error_page 500 /error_pages/HTTP500.html;
    error_page 501 /error_pages/HTTP501.html;
    error_page 502 /error_pages/HTTP502.html;
    error_page 503 /error_pages/HTTP503.html;
    proxy_intercept_errors on;
}

location /error_pages/ {
    alias /websites/error_pages/;
    internal;
}

12. RR Random Rambling

Nowhere in the docs is it mentioned that the Traefik dashboard is enabled on port 8080.
This should either be clearly documented... or not exposed at all by default.

If it's meant to stay, it should ideally be served at something like https://pangolin.example.com/traefik-dashboard and integrated into the admin UI with a quick-access button that would iframe it onto the ui.

Here’s how I’ve personally handled it:

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Maybe out of scope, but worth thinking about:

• Auto-scan docker.sock for containers not routed through Pangolin, then show them in a UI to quickly pick a port and auto-fill a resource. One click = done.
• Or just offer prebuilt labels that can be added to a docker-compose file to declare resources inline.

Either would then make adding services way faster and brain-dead simple.

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Why not either integrating or building an alternative to Anubis into the sso page ?

https://anubis.techaro.lol/

also need a solution for this issue:

https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/configuration/custom-status-codes/

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unified robots.txt, humans.txt, security.txt, etc etc
it would be nice to configure these in pangolin and then assign them to each ressource.

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was playing around with OICD and thought this would be nice to have people request access that you could acknowledge manually

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Final Word

Good job on the software. I'm happy with the result and hope this feedback is taken constructively.
I’m optimistic about the future of the project and will probably buy a supporter key once my setup is fully stable.
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[oschwartz10612]

Hi this is an awesome write up of great UI / usability improvements we should absolutely do! I am going to mark this as help wanted in case anyone wants to take up some of these ideas in the UI because I think they would be pretty straight forward and good first issues.

[P6g9YHK6]

updated it with more information and a couple of things that i forgot along the way :D

now that's a proper write-up.

[Pallavikumarimdb]

Hi @oschwartz10612 , I'm interested in working on this. Could you please assign it to me?

[oschwartz10612]

Awesome @Pallavikumarimdb! Feel free to open a draft PR as you go. There are a lot of features here so I would tackle one at a time in a PR.

We really appreciate the help!

[miloschwartz]

Thanks, converting this to a discussion thread so others can upvote and participate!

[mrfoureyed]

Do we have a place to track or know whos working on these features? Or if any of these have already been implemented. Im coming from a traefik setup and have built some of this out already with my previous setup and would be interested in helping here if I can. But like @oschwartz10612 mentioned, lot of features here.