Is it possible to power the MCU with a programmer, using avrdude?

[mabra129]

ATmega1609
pickit4 in updi

So I recently switched from using the MPLAB Toolchain which allows for programming via comment line to avrdude.
With an external power source (5V) connected to the ATmega1609 and the pickit4 set to avr mode, flashing via avrdude works just as good as flashing via MPLAB.
Now to my question, previously I could just add a parameter to my command line to specify that I want to power the MCU via programmer. For example: "ipecmd.exe -TPPK4 -PATmega1609 -W5 -M -FC:\Dir\filename.hex", where -W5 sets the output voltage to 5V.
Is there a similar option in avrdude?

[MCUdude]

You could do this with Avrdude using your PICkit4 in "PIC" mode.

First, switch your programmer over to PIC mode:

avrdude -c pickit4_updi -x mode=pic

Then use "PICkit 5 mode" like so:

avrdude -c pickit5_updi -p atmega1609 -x vtarg=5.0

[MCUdude]

Since MCUdude got it to work (pickit4 in PIC mode) for m4808 my guess would be that, m4808 is supported by PIC mode and m1609 not?! Maybe the pickit4 can't resolve the differences internally like the pickit5 is able to.

I think I have an ATmega1609 lying around somewhere. I can test this with the PICkit4 in PIC mode just to verify.

I suspect the pickit 5 has still a driver issue.

@MX682X Driver issue as in USB driver, or an issue with the programmer firmware and/or the "script" Avrdude uses?

[MX682X]

@MCUdude WIndows USB Driver. Because the OS can't even open the port.
Or... Maybe there could be an issue with the PK5 itself, if it was bricked and the wrong PID is reported, which would require MPLAB to flash a new firmware. Maybe an update of the PK5 Firmware could also help, in general.

But, given the fact, that the older PK4 already had a problem with drivers, I can imagine the problem persists with the PK5.

[mabra129]

@MX682X yeah the issues described in these posts come pretty close to what i was experiencing. I deinstalled everything related to microchip, deleted all files, reinstalled newest version updated all tools. I deinstalled the device under win device manager and selected the driver in the microchip folder after I plugged it back in. I did a recovery boot in the IPE and thought I killed it, it wasnt showing up as anything (under device manager) anymore no sound when connecting no light up etc. Somehow it came back and usually after a recovery boot the IPE tries to install the latest firmware, but it said no connection or timeout or something.
I tried to set it into boot mode (disconnecting holding the button while reconnecting), but it was not helping with the firmware update and the device was not acting like descriped in some tutorials (light behavior did not match). At this point it was not possible to get a connection in IDE, IPE or avrdude. I tested another cable, the situation was even worse, the device was not detected, so I switched back.
I left everything plugged and open. Hours later I just retry and it somehow worked first in IPE (not in IDE). I closed everything opened it back up. Now it works in IPE and IDE but sadly the avrdude output remains the same.
Maybe my device is just at its limit and about to die.

[MX682X]

@mabra129 I'd like you to try to flash following file with the pickit4: https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/blob/main/tools/test_files/holes_rjmp_loops_1024B.hex
Please post the complete log, maybe even with -vvvv. This will provide also a trace of the usb transfers. Hopefully it will provide a bit more insight into the problem.

[mabra129]

I set the picket4 in PIC mode reconnected the device and used the following flash command:
avrdude -p m1609 -c pickit5_updi -x vtarg=5.0 -vvvv -e -U 'flash:w:C:\Users\user\Downloads\holes_rjmp_loops_1024B.hex:a'

Which resulted in:

Details

'C:\Toolchain\PRG\AVR\avrdude\8.0\avrdude.exe' -p m1609 -c pickit5_updi -x vtarg=5.0 -vvvv -e -U 'flash:w:C:\Users\user\Downloads\holes_rjmp_loops_1024B.hex:a'
Avrdude version 8.0
Copyright see https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/blob/main/AUTHORS

System wide configuration file is C:\Toolchain\PRG\AVR\avrdude\8.0\avrdude.conf

Using port : usb
Using programmer : pickit5_updi
Programmer baud rate : 200000
Pickit5_open("usb")
Usbdev_open(): found MPLAB« PICkit 4, serno: BUR222273520
Input file C:\Users\user\Downloads\holes_rjmp_loops_1024B.hex auto detected as Intel Hex
AVR part : ATmega1609
Programming modes : SPM, UPDI

Memory Size Pg size Offset

eeprom 256 32 0x1400
flash 16384 64 0x4000
fuses 10 1 0x1280
fuse0/wdtcfg 1 1 0x1280
fuse1/bodcfg 1 1 0x1281
fuse2/osccfg 1 1 0x1282
fuse5/syscfg0 1 1 0x1285
fuse6/syscfg1 1 1 0x1286
fuse7/append 1 1 0x1287
fuse8/bootend 1 1 0x1288
lock 1 1 0x128a
prodsig/sigrow 64 64 0x1100
signature 3 1 0x1100
sernum 10 1 0x1103
osccal16 2 1 0x1118
osccal20 2 1 0x111a
tempsense 2 1 0x1120
osc16err 2 1 0x1122
osc20err 2 1 0x1124
userrow/usersig 32 32 0x1300
io 4352 1 0
sram 2048 1 0x3800
sib 32 1 0

Variants Package F max T range V range

ATmega1609-AF TQFP48 20 MHz [-40 C, 125 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-AFR TQFP48 20 MHz [-40 C, 125 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-AU TQFP48 20 MHz [-40 C, 85 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-AUR TQFP48 20 MHz [-40 C, 85 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-MF VQFN48 20 MHz [-40 C, 125 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-MFR VQFN48 20 MHz [-40 C, 125 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-MU VQFN48 20 MHz [-40 C, 125 C] [1.8 V, 5.5 V]
ATmega1609-MUR VQFN48 N/A [N/A, N/A] [N/A, N/A]

Programmer type : pickit5
Description : MPLAB(R) PICkit 5, PICkit 4 and SNAP (PIC)
Pickit5_get_fw_info()
Usbdev_send: . [e1]
Application version : 00.09.46
Serial number : BUR222273520
Pickit5_initialize()
Pickit5_set_ptg_mode()
Usbdev_send: . [02] . [01] . [00] . [80] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [1d] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [05] . [00] . [00] . [00] ^ [5e] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00]
Pickit5_set_vtarget(disable)
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [1d] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [05] . [00] . [00] . [00] F [46] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00]
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [19] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] D [44]
Pickit5_get_vtarget()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [19] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] G [47]
Target Vdd: 0.06 V, target current: 0 mA
No extenal Voltage detected; trying to supply from PICkit
Pickit5_set_vtarget(5.00 V)
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [1d] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [05] . [00] . [00] . [00] F [46] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00]
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] ' [27] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [0f] . [00] . [00] . [00] @ [40] . [88] . [13] . [00] . [00] . [88] . [13] . [00] . [00] . [88] . [13] . [00] . [00] B [42] C [43]
Pickit5_get_vtarget()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [19] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] G [47]
Target Vdd: 4.82 V, target current: 16 mA
Pickit5_program_enable()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] > [3e] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] & [26] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] . [00] . [1e] . [01] . [00] . [01] . [fd] . [19] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [08] . [01] . [94] 2 [32] . [00] . [94] @ [40] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [0b] . [1e] . [0e] . [00] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] & [26] . [01] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] Y [59] . [1e] . [0f] . [00] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [00] e [65] [20] g [67] o [6f] r [72] . [04] e [65] P [50] M [4d] V [56] N [4e] . [04] . [1e] . [11] . [01] . [9b] . [02] . [07] . [1e] . [0e] . [02] l [6c] . [03] f [66] . [03] . [10] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [9b] . [04] . [10] . [fc] . [03] . [04] . [1e] . [01] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] Y [59] . [1e] . [0f] . [00] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0b] . [a2] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] . [a5] [20] . [00] . [00] . [00] [20] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [0a] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] . [00] . [1e] . [0f] . [00] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0b] . [a2] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] . [a5] [20] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [0a] . [00] . [94] H [48] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [0b] . [1e] . [0e] . [00] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] & [26] . [01] . [9b] . [00] . [0b] . [1e] . [0e] . [00] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [02] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [02] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0c] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] l [6c] . [02] f [66] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] . [94] . [f4] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0c] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] l [6c] . [02] f [66] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] . [fb] . [1e] . [01] . [90] . [01] Q [51] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [7f] . [01] . [fb] & [26] . [01] . [90] . [01] D [44] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [7f] . [01] . [fb] & [26] . [01] . [90] . [01] . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [7f] . [01]
Pickit5_read_sib()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [1f] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [07] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [95] . [9b] . [00] . [02] . [1e] . [12] . [00]
Pickit5_read_dev_id()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] 9 [39] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] ! [21] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [95] . [90] . [00] . [00] . [11] . [00] . [00] . [1e] . [09] . [00] . [9c] . [01] . [03] . [00] . [1e] . [10] . [01] . [9b] . [02] . [03] . [1e] . [0c] . [02] . [90] . [02] . [01] . [0f] . [00] . [00] . [1e] . [03] . [02] . [9f]
Pickit5_set_sck_period()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] ! [21] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [05] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [c8] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [91] . [00] . [1e] . [14] . [00]
UPDI speed set to 200 kHz
Pickit5_program_enable()
Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] > [3e] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] & [26] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] . [00] . [1e] . [01] . [00] . [01] . [fd] . [19] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [08] . [01] . [94] 2 [32] . [00] . [94] @ [40] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [0b] . [1e] . [0e] . [00] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] & [26] . [01] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] Y [59] . [1e] . [0f] . [00] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [00] e [65] [20] g [67] o [6f] r [72] . [04] e [65] P [50] M [4d] V [56] N [4e] . [04] . [1e] . [11] . [01] . [9b] . [02] . [07] . [1e] . [0e] . [02] l [6c] . [03] f [66] . [03] . [10] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [9b] . [04] . [10] . [fc] . [03] . [04] . [1e] . [01] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] Y [59] . [1e] . [0f] . [00] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0b] . [a2] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] . [a5] [20] . [00] . [00] . [00] [20] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [0a] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [08] . [9b] . [01] . [00] . [1e] . [0f] . [00] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0b] . [a2] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] . [a5] [20] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [0a] . [00] . [94] H [48] . [00] . [9b] . [00] . [0b] . [1e] . [0e] . [00] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [08] . [00] . [00] . [00] & [26] . [01] . [9b] . [00] . [0b] . [1e] . [0e] . [00] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] l [6c] . [01] f [66] . [01] . [02] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [01] . [02] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0c] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] l [6c] . [02] f [66] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] . [94] . [f4] . [01] . [9b] . [01] . [0c] . [1e] . [0e] . [01] l [6c] . [02] f [66] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [fe] . [02] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [13] . [01] . [fb] . [1e] . [01] . [90] . [01] Q [51] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [7f] . [01] . [fb] & [26] . [01] . [90] . [01] D [44] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [7f] . [01] . [fb] & [26] . [01] . [90] . [01] . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [7f] . [01]

AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
Avr_signature(pickit5_updi, m1609)
Reading | | 0% 0.00 s
Avr_read_mem(pickit5_updi, m1609, signature, NULL)
Pickit5_read_array(0, 1)
Pickit5_read_array(1, 1)
Reading | ################# | 33% 0.00 s
Pickit5_read_array(2, 1)
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00 s
Avr_signature(pickit5_updi, m1609)
Reading | | 0% 0.00 s
Avr_read_mem(pickit5_updi, m1609, signature, NULL)
Pickit5_read_array(0, 1)
Pickit5_read_array(1, 1)
Reading | ################# | 33% 0.00 s
Pickit5_read_array(2, 1)
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00 s
Avr_signature(pickit5_updi, m1609)
Reading | | 0% 0.00 s
Avr_read_mem(pickit5_updi, m1609, signature, NULL)
Pickit5_read_array(0, 1)
Pickit5_read_array(1, 1)
Reading | ################# | 33% 0.00 s
Pickit5_read_array(2, 1)
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00 s
Avr_signature(pickit5_updi, m1609)
Reading | | 0% 0.00 s
Avr_read_mem(pickit5_updi, m1609, signature, NULL)
Pickit5_read_array(0, 1)
Pickit5_read_array(1, 1)
Reading | ################# | 33% 0.00 s
Pickit5_read_array(2, 1)
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00 s
Avr_signature(pickit5_updi, m1609)
Reading | | 0% 0.00 s
Avr_read_mem(pickit5_updi, m1609, signature, NULL)
Pickit5_read_array(0, 1)
Pickit5_read_array(1, 1)
Reading | ################# | 33% 0.00 s
Pickit5_read_array(2, 1)
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00 s
Device signature = 83 00 00
Error main() main.c 1725: expected signature for ATmega1609 is 1E 94 26

• double check chip or use -F to carry on regardless
  Pickit5_close()
  Pickit5_set_vtarget(disable)
  Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [1d] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [05] . [00] . [00] . [00] F [46] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00]
  Usbdev_send: . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [19] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [00] . [00] . [00] D [44]

Avrdude done. Thank you.

[stefanrueger]

What confuses me is the attempt of avrdude to read Flash at 0x3067 - it doesn't make sense for me.

The hex file contains one section [0, 0x3066]. There are 25 pad bytes to make it 194 pages of 64 bytes each. AVRDUDE reads the [edit 25 bytes in the interval [0x3067, 0x307f] last page [0x3040, 0x307f]] to know how to pad out the last page. If it didn't do so, the 25 bytes after the first 0x3067 bytes of the hex section would be overwritten with 0xff (although the .hex file hasn't given any instruction to do so). If the driver cannot read from odd addresses it should read from an even address and throw away the not-needed byte.