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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: "TLC Meeting - December 8, 2022" |
| 3 | +linkTitle: "TLC - December 8, 2022" |
| 4 | +date: 2022-12-08 |
| 5 | +--- |
| 6 | + |
| 7 | +Meetings are happening on the `#selenium-tlc` channel on [Selenium Slack](https://selenium.dev/support). |
| 8 | +To add items to the agenda for the next meeting, please see our public [Rolling Agenda](https://docs.google.com/document/d/18InWY44S0C_ECkRkRo8GKictu8BEtsahRsFh17tmUR0/edit#) |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +The next meeting will be Thursday, December 22 at 0700 Pacific / 1000 Eastern / 1500 UK / 1930 India. |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +### Participation |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +TLC members present included: |
| 15 | +* [AutomatedTester] |
| 16 | +* [diemol] |
| 17 | +* [harsha509] |
| 18 | +* [p0deje] |
| 19 | +* [pujagani] |
| 20 | +* [titusfortner] |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +## Agenda |
| 23 | +* Ticket Status |
| 24 | +* CDP support |
| 25 | +* Membership Updates |
| 26 | +* Proposals |
| 27 | +* CI Health |
| 28 | +* Selenium 4.7 |
| 29 | +* Selenium 4.8 |
| 30 | +* Projects Underway |
| 31 | +* Backlog |
| 32 | + |
| 33 | +*** |
| 34 | + |
| 35 | +### Ticket Status |
| 36 | + |
| 37 | +* 113 open Issues; last meeting: 109 |
| 38 | +* 26 outstanding PRs; last meeting: 26 |
| 39 | + |
| 40 | +Issues keep ticking up, but several dozen of these were opened by project members for tracking work in progress. |
| 41 | + |
| 42 | +### CDP support |
| 43 | + |
| 44 | +* v108 was released on November 29 |
| 45 | +* v109 scheduled for release on January 10 |
| 46 | + |
| 47 | +### Membership Updates |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | +* @Luis Correia is now an official committer for the docs |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +### [Proposals/Decisions](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/labels/A-needs%20decision) |
| 52 | + |
| 53 | +* [Inconsistent shutdown behavior between drivers](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/11303) |
| 54 | + |
| 55 | +It was agreed that ending the processes for everything on program exit would be ideal, but that because |
| 56 | +of backwards compatibility issues we would need bandwidth to do the work and field questions from |
| 57 | +irate users, which is not currently a priority. |
| 58 | + |
| 59 | +* [Cache Selenium Manager](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/11359) |
| 60 | + |
| 61 | +It was agreed that there was no good reason not to do this, but also as a minor optimization it might |
| 62 | + not be worth doing. [titusfortner] said he would implement it in bindings if he got frustrated enough |
| 63 | + with current implementation. |
| 64 | + |
| 65 | +* [Selenium Manager Output](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/11359) |
| 66 | + |
| 67 | +It was agreed that there should be a flag to indicate JSON output that can be consumed by the bindings |
| 68 | +where the log-looking information can be seen by the user directly. |
| 69 | + |
| 70 | +### CI Health |
| 71 | + |
| 72 | +* Java & JS have a couple flaky tests |
| 73 | +* Ruby has issue with Firefox on Windows |
| 74 | +* [p0deje] is working on improving Ruby bazel usage, and remote caching options to improve CI |
| 75 | + |
| 76 | +### Selenium 4.7 |
| 77 | + |
| 78 | +Released! Mostly on time! |
| 79 | + |
| 80 | +### Selenium 4.8 |
| 81 | + |
| 82 | +[Milestone 4.8](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/milestone/9) |
| 83 | + |
| 84 | +Members encouraged to add the label to everything that needs to be included in the next release. |
| 85 | +We are not expecting to release again until January. |
| 86 | + |
| 87 | +Most of the items currently on the list fall into 3 categories: |
| 88 | +* Selenium Manager items |
| 89 | +* BiDi items |
| 90 | +* Half-completed [titusfortner] items |
| 91 | + |
| 92 | +BiDi things - noted that our [current documentation](https://www.selenium.dev/documentation/webdriver/bidirectional/) |
| 93 | +is no longer quite correct. Our idea of idealized devtools things being able to keep the same implementation |
| 94 | +for BiDi is not working out as originally envisioned. Discussed creating the BiDi API and then implementing |
| 95 | +things with Chrome DevTools as a fall-back when BiDi hasn't implemented the feature, but we're a ways off from being |
| 96 | +able to do that. We don't have a Selenium specific roadmap, just going off of passing |
| 97 | +[wpt tests](https://wpt.fyi/results/webdriver/tests/bidi?label=experimental&label=master&aligned&view=subtest) |
| 98 | +and the [BiDi spec](https://github.com/w3c/webdriver-bidi) for what to work on. Currently, actively implemeting |
| 99 | +things in Ruby, JS and Java. Things are a little more uncertain for what needs to be done in Python & .NET. |
| 100 | +[pujagani] and [TamsilAmani] will discuss a potential roadmap specific for Selenium work. |
| 101 | + |
| 102 | +Selenium Manager things — [boni_gg] has been working off the milestones he created. [titusfortner] came |
| 103 | +up with a more finely detailed description of a [potential roadmap](https://gist.github.com/titusfortner/96ecf9c2da9fe5eb4caf012673de8657) |
| 104 | +including blockers as a conversation starter. |
| 105 | + |
| 106 | +### Projects in Progress |
| 107 | + |
| 108 | +* [BiDi API work](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dCd8Y2PYaR5mOGSmNTwllEHNmFqegfoGkP-TCKvPzSU/edit#) — [pujagani] — |
| 109 | +discussed status previously as part of 4.8 work |
| 110 | +* [Selenium Manager](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/blob/trunk/rust/README.md#roadmap) — [boni_gg] and [titusfortner] |
| 111 | +discussed status previously as part of 4.8 work |
| 112 | +* [Bazel Remote Caching](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/11306) — [p0deje] — |
| 113 | +discussed previously as part of CI work. Members are invited to test it out. |
| 114 | +* [Python Type Hints](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/9480) — [symonk] — still in progress |
| 115 | + |
| 116 | +### Backlog |
| 117 | + |
| 118 | +These items were referenced, but not discussed in detail: |
| 119 | + |
| 120 | +* Add More support to CI (#11305) |
| 121 | +* Add TouchActions API to Selenium (#10808) |
| 122 | +* Add/fix Bazel support in .NET (#10465) |
| 123 | +* JS using TypeScript (#10942) |
| 124 | +* Add .rbs files in Ruby (#10943) |
| 125 | +* Comprehensive command logging across languages (#10944) |
| 126 | +* Remove JWP support from Java |
| 127 | +* Selenium + Appium consolidation |
| 128 | +* Rewrite atoms in TypeScript |
| 129 | +* Python Async Rewrite (Current plan is “doubling” the API) |
| 130 | +* .NET Async Rewrite (Current plan is to deprecate Sync code so as not to double the API) |
| 131 | + |
| 132 | +[AutomatedTester]: https://github.com/AutomatedTester/ |
| 133 | +[boni_gg]: https://twitter.com/boni_gg/ |
| 134 | +[diemol]: https://github.com/diemol/ |
| 135 | +[harsha509]: https://github.com/harsha509/ |
| 136 | +[p0deje]: https://github.com/p0deje/ |
| 137 | +[pujagani]: https://github.com/pujagani/ |
| 138 | +[symonk]: http://github.com/symonk/ |
| 139 | +[TamsilAmani]: https://github.com/TamsilAmani/ |
| 140 | +[titusfortner]: https://github.com/titusfortner/ |
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