When OpenMage takes stuff from Maho, OSL license must be respected

[fballiano]

It's not a problem If somebody from OM takes one of our ideas and develops it in his own way (it happened many times that we do something in Maho and a very similar PR appears here without ever citing the source), but this time our code was copied into a PR without bringing in our copyright notes and not even citing the source. You can take a look at the history of that PR and see that it was done in a certain way and than changed after I published my PR in Maho.

This is agains OSL and extremely disrespectful.

He also stated that he will take our code without respecting the license here:

Notice the language?

• "I don't want to hear you cry" is a bully behavior which is against the code of conduct, the same code of conduct that person violated many, many times without any consequence, will you all finally do something?
• "I have waited for it" shows he did it on purpose because of the personal resentment he has toward me, again, this shouldn't be allowed.

OM shouldn't have been left to such people many months ago, when I left this project after 3.5 years of complete dedication, and this is the result.

@colinmollenhour @kiatng @Hanmac

[Hanmac]

@fballiano normally I don't want to talk about politics for my open-source contributions.
Also, I don't think I am high enough in the hierarchy to change or demand something.

And normally, there are only so many different ways you can code to fix a problem.

But in this case, the whole code block is the same (80-90%) so I added a request change

[fballiano]

@fballiano normally I don't want to talk about politics for my open-source contributions.

Believe me I'd love to be able to do the same

[addison74]

@colinmollenhour , @kiatng, @Hanmac, @sreichel - This complaint must be discussed internally and a decision made. Until then, I will close the discussion.

[fballiano]

Its not about leaving a fu... copyright line, its about to contribute back.

you don't hide your bully abusive behavior behind "..."

and anyway what you say, again, makes zero sense, there are licenses for a reason, it's not about what you think.

[fballiano]

Have you ever made a single PR to move something from YOUR PROJECT to OpenMage? Guess not.

I did only 500, plus the rest of the work you didn't want to do 😂 plus all v21 that you can't even understand and thrown away, you have a community (which you're destroying anyway) only because of my 3.5 years commitment 😂

[sreichel]

I have asked for YOUR PROJECT...

v21 still exists, nothing has been thrown away.

because of my 3.5 years commitment

Its like a Vinyl that hangs. You left on your own - w/o any reason. You have never been part of the disputes i had with Daniel sigh. Me, Collin, Addison, maybe other asked you to come back, but ... no.

[fballiano]

without any reason 😂😂😂 there are no traces because you deleted the conversations, as it usually goes with openmage.

you are the reason, everybody knows, you never asked me to come back and never apologized for your abusive bully behavior which btw you continue to show.

this is becoming funny.

btw, you admitted you copied my code so and said you will continue to do that without respecting the license... I'm satisfied.

I still think you should get a COC violation but apparently this project doesn't have admins anymore so... it is what it is.

[sreichel]

you have a community (which you're destroying anyway) only because of my 3.5 years commitment 😂

Maybe you have missed that i am here since 8 years.

Your commitment - focused on v21 - is one of the reasons why we ....

We worked good together until v21-release-bla-blah ...

[fballiano]

since the only value of this project is deleting my conversation, the next time (and it will happen if you don't ban that person) I'll post everything in public on all my social media.

he's constantly violating COC and now OSL, this project is a joke if none of you does anything also this time.

[fballiano]

U R stupid. Even closed discussions are visible and open for answers. Addison did NOT lock it - that would prevent answering.

😂 where did I say I couldn't answer? it bothers me that you keep hiding stuff from the public view, like all of the discussions when I left, and that was the intention here again.

[Hanmac]

@Hanmac he said "it was always visible" then admitted it was hidden in the closed discussions (that's why if you checked https://github.com/OpenMage/magento-lts/discussions it didn't show).

Because it is visible there:
https://github.com/OpenMage/magento-lts/discussions?discussions_q=is%3Aclosed

so it wasn't deleted like you claimed it was

[sreichel]

Thanks. I am out for now. Heidi deserves more attention ... :)

[fballiano]

@Hanmac ok let's get stuck on semantic, I explained what I mean here already.

and the assuption came from the fact that all of the rest of the stuff that led to me leaving this project was deleted or put in private repositories or whatever.

[sreichel]

@fab DELETED screenshot .... it has been moved to internal for some reason.

[sreichel]

I have locked it for now.

Calm down. Thinlk about it. I'll re-open later.

[colinmollenhour]

All conversation in this thread and PR #4697 have been recorded and will be used for internal discussion (#maintainers Discord channel) to determine what actions will be taken regarding various potential CoC violations. I'd encourage everyone to step away from this while we work through a resolution and not attempt to re-open new discussions elsewhere. We are taking seriously all allegations of misconduct, both relating to communication as well as potential licensing issues. However, we operate in many timezones and availability schedules, so please be patient.
If you are aware of further misconduct related to this matter outside of this discussion (I already have email receipts of redacted posts) and the PR discussion, please contact me on Discord. Thanks

[colinmollenhour]

This message was emailed directly to both Sven and Fabrizio in case they cannot see it here.

As a result of the comments made on PR 4697 and discussion 4717, Sven and Fabrizio, you have both been blocked from participation in the OpenMage organization for 30 days and Sven has been removed from the OpenMage organization (as is required by Github to block a user). I'm not interested in the reasoning and arguments for things that were said or who was right or wrong on which points or how much benefit each of you bring to the project, that conversation is lost when the CoC is blatantly violated. This decision is supported by all members of the maintainers channel on Discord who responded within ~20 hours.

I have no interest in litigating this any further, so no response is necessary and any response that is not extremely carefully worded is likely to just make things worse for you, as in a 180 day or permanent block. Same goes for if I catch wind of any attempt to engage with the community or denigrate it during this 30 days. This is not a violation of your freedom of speech in your home countries or any country, you have a right to say whatever you want in that regard. But, that doesn't mean there can't be consequences as it relates to a private online community, in that regard the consequences can be absolute and indefinite if we so choose.

Thanks for your cooperation,
Colin

[addison74]

All conflicting posts must be removed. If a decision has been made regarding copyright, please consider whether it can be communicated to everyone.