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Hi, Where I work, we had a user download to test out the software. Our security software and Google Chrome both stated that the .dotm file supplied is malicious. |
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Which security software? What is the exact error message from your software? |
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Hi,
This is what we were presented with from SentinelOne:
Threat Info
Name: WordMat.dotm
URL:
Path: '\\Device\\HarddiskVolume3\\Users\\ralhammo\\AppData\\Roaming\\Microsoft\\Word\\STARTUP\\WordMat.dotm'
Command Line Arguments: None
Process User: RALTP01\ralhammo
Originating Process: WordMat132.tmp
SHA1: 7a5fac2ddda01011e570cb7c7746d579552183f9
Initiated By: Agent Policy
Engine: ['SentinelOne Cloud']
Detection type: static
Classification: Malware
File Size: 2547673
Storyline: A84D646663D9045B
Threat Id: 2145105904159186936
Please see the attachment for Chrome.
We suspect that it’s unsigned.
Paul Thompson
I.T. Support Specialist
University of Waterloo - Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering
200 University Avenue West
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
N2L 3G1
1-519-888-4567 Ext. 47182
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Eduap-com/WordMat] Software flagged by Google Chrome as malicious (Discussion #280)
What is the exact error message from your software?
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Waterloo? I thought, you were using Maple. Anyway, the file WordMat.dotm contains several files. The code for the Ribbons and more. The question is therefore why it was flagged. I notice that your info contains:
Where can we lookup what the the threat is? |
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Hi,
Not everyone prefers that software. Due to various factors here, specifically costs, we have users seeking out open source based and free alternatives.
I’ll ask for more information from our security team.
Chrome doesn’t state why it blocks this specific installer, just that it detected malware.
Our users can change these files, so that can’t be the reason.
Paul Thompson
I.T. Support Specialist
University of Waterloo - Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering
200 University Avenue West
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
N2L 3G1
1-519-888-4567 Ext. 47182
For CEE I.T. related requests, please email ***@***.******@***.***> or go here<https://uwaterloo.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/135> .
From: Jens Axel Søgaard ***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 12:43 PM
To: Eduap-com/WordMat ***@***.***>
Cc: Paul Thompson ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***>
Subject: Re: [Eduap-com/WordMat] Software flagged by Google Chrome as malicious (Discussion #280)
Waterloo? I thought, you were using Maple.
Anyway, the file WordMat.dotm contains several files. The code for the Ribbons and more.
The question is therefore why it was flagged.
I notice that your info contains:
Storyline: A84D646663D9045B
Threat Id: 2145105904159186936
Where can we lookup what the the threat is?
Is it a specific virus that has been found?
Or was the file just flagged automatically on systems that don't allow users to change their word.dotm file?
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Hi,
I heard back from our security team.
They stated that when our detection tool notifies them, they verify the results. Here is a link they sent they sue: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/b22202cb97f97691b06c7466e7143787e4382738e25f986338a8ca4b493c71b8
A number of vendors caught this. But, it does look like the latest version you offer isn’t being detected as such.
Kind regards,
Paul Thompson
I.T. Support Specialist
University of Waterloo - Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering
200 University Avenue West
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
N2L 3G1
1-519-888-4567 Ext. 47182
For CEE I.T. related requests, please email ***@***.******@***.***> or go here<https://uwaterloo.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/135> .
From: Jens Axel Søgaard ***@***.***>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 12:43 PM
To: Eduap-com/WordMat ***@***.***>
Cc: Paul Thompson ***@***.***>; Author ***@***.***>
Subject: Re: [Eduap-com/WordMat] Software flagged by Google Chrome as malicious (Discussion #280)
Waterloo? I thought, you were using Maple.
Anyway, the file WordMat.dotm contains several files. The code for the Ribbons and more.
The question is therefore why it was flagged.
I notice that your info contains:
Storyline: A84D646663D9045B
Threat Id: 2145105904159186936
Where can we lookup what the the threat is?
Is it a specific virus that has been found?
Or was the file just flagged automatically on systems that don't allow users to change their word.dotm file?
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Your information seems relevant for Issue #282 |
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@soegaard Thanks for trying to answer. WordMat uses a lot of different techniques, that could potentially be used for malicious intent. I suspect it is also a consequence of a more hostile world, where cyberattacks are more frequent. The antivirus programs have to more on edge, and it is better to have more false-positives, than lettings one malicious program through. The only succes I have had is using codesigned files. It is not perfect, but reduces the problem. As suspected by @pnrthomp the file is not codesigned. This is a feature only available for partnership schools. However the detection is a false-positive, you can manually exempt it from your anti-virus software. |
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@soegaard Thanks for trying to answer.
The 'call home' functionality in WordMatP is located in the WordMatPlus codefiles and should not interfere with WordMat.dotm.
It downloads a list of approved IP's and checks if your ip is approved for partnership. Nothing is sendt to the server.
WordMat uses a lot of different techniques, that could potentially be used for malicious intent.
I have tried altering many of the techniques, and testing to see which would cause the problems. Even completely crippling the program. I have had very little succes. If you check a file on virustotal.com it can seem ok (few antivirus hits), but a week or a month later it can be blocked by many antivirus programs.
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