Boiler compatibility list

[sergeantd83]

This is a list of boiler brand / model that provenly works with SAT.
If your boiler works with SAT please comment below your Boiler’s Brand and Model.

Gas Boilers

Brand - Model	ID3:LB
Baxi Luna Dua-Tec
Dedietrich MCR3 Evo	11*
Ferroli BlueHelix Pro	9
Ferroli BlueHelix Tech RRT	9
Geminox	4
Ideal Logic Heat	6
Ideal Vogue Max	6
Immergas Victrix Omnia	27**
Immergas Victrix Superior	27**
Intergas HRE	173
Intergas Xtreme	173
Itho Daalderop Base Cube	29
Nefit Pro-Line HRC	131
Radiant R2K	41
Remeha Avanta CW5	11*
Remeha Calenta	11*
Sime Vera HE	27**
Saunier Duval ThemaFast Condens 25 using the AWB Ebus Opentherm interface 0020092426	-
Termet Ecocondens Gold Plus	-
Vaillant VHR Solide Plus	24
Viessmann Vitodens 100-W	33

Heat Pumps

Brand - Model	ID3:LB
Remeha Elga Ace	11*

*Dedietrich and Remeha have the same MemberID Code
**Immergas and Sime have the same MemberID Code
***This list will be updated

[pbajdor]

Works perfect with Viessmna Vitodens 100-W.

[slavo-83]

Ferroli BlueHelix PRO

[sergeantd83]

@pbajdor can you please provide your slave memberID code ( ID3:LB )?

[mezger6]

Working great with a Radiant R2K24

[sergeantd83]

@mezger6 can you please provide your slave memberID code ( ID3:LB )?

[mezger6]

Sure, could you give me a hint on where to find it?

[sergeantd83]

It depends on which OTGW version you have.

WiFi version
sensor.otgw_status_slave_memberid_code

Serial version sensor.slave_memberid_boiler_xxxx

[mezger6]

I don't have either entity. My setup is OTGW board via serial to server with otmonitor with message relay, its socket configured as OTGW serial in SAT. No ESP in between, but I plan to incorporate one some time in the future - if it's necessary to get this info I'll get back to you then.

[sergeantd83]

Ok, then you should send the PM=3 command through OTmonitor. Then look at the statistics tab. Look for the ID3. ID3 is displayed as HB LB, so it should look like this XXXXXXXX XX. Hope this helps 🙂

[mezger6]

This is what I'm getting in response to PM=3, hope this is what you need:
10:42:07.933342 BC0030129 Read-Ack Slave configuration (MsgID=3): 00000001 41

[sergeantd83]

Yes, this is exactly what we want! Thank you very much!

[pbajdor]

03 3 Read Slave configuration 7 01010000 33

I hope this will help!

[sergeantd83]

Thank you very much both for your help!

[Richy22B]

If Intergas HRE and Xtreme work with this, so will the Intergas ECO RF, Xclusive & Rapid as they share the same OpenTherm programming.

[sergeantd83]

Till now the “official” low-load control method is not working for immergas, intergas and ideal boilers. Thankfully @enryIT found a rather smart workaround to bring the “official” low-load control to immergas boilers. We do have some ideas about how to control boilers without ID14. I believe soon this issue will be resolved. It will be huge improvement for SAT since we will be able to support every OpenTherm boiler.

Thank you very much for the confirmation and the additional informations you provided.

[sergeantd83]

Moreover I would like to share an Intergas Xtreme behavior after a software update back in 2023 ( 18/4/2023 ). You can clearly see that the boiler respects the ID14.

We also captured the software update moment.

[Richy22B]

This is a snip from my own training manual from 2017. The Big C parameter was never documented properly and Intergas UK at the time had no idea of this functionality (nor much understanding about OpenTherm full stop). I did extensive research at the time on Intergas boilers for our own business and stumbled across Big C and its effect on low load control by complete accident. You can't access Big C = 2 from IDS, it can only be accessed from the HRE/ECO RF boiler display under installer menu 15. Like I said, I found it by complete luck and it was a shame it was removed in later models.

[Richy22B]

This is also a video I did from 6 years ago showing OTC control on a T4M thermostat (https://youtu.be/ZvjtkDWpjC8?si=hh70WILa7QaN3WlQ). All interesting stuff and I'm really liking what you are doing with SAT.

[sergeantd83]

Thanks for sharing this video. SAT weather compensation algorithm part works the same way. But we created our own heating curves and the parallel adjustment is proportional to the heating curve. Then SAT adds the load compensation part. This means that SAT is a Weather + Load compensator which monitors the outside and the room temperature always and carefully calculates the control Setpoint. Then, in order to apply the Low-load control algorithm,SAT monitors the boiler flow water and the return water temperatures. As a result SAT calculates the ON/OFF times in 15 minutes intervals ( SAT is also able to extend the duty cycle if the control Setpoint is too high or too low ). These two developments work tightly together in order to prevent cycling and maintain the room temperature on setpoint. Moreover we chose the 15 min duty cycle instead of 10 min that the most commercial thermostats use, this helps to reduce the ON/OFF times of the boiler by 50% during Low-load control.

[dexterionut]

Can you please also add Immergas Victrix Omnia 25? I'm using esp-opentherm + SAT on this boiler and it works as expected. Boiler member id is 27.

[bjornmorsman]

Can you please add Itho Daalderop Base Cube with memberid 29

SAT works as expected

thank you

[sergeantd83]

We are happy to hear that SAT is working properly with your boiler. Soon your boiler will be added. Thanks!